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Woman Tells Sister-in-Law She Can’t Say Her Stillborn Baby “Matters Less” – Family Turns Against Her

by Charles Butler
October 29, 2025
in Social Issues

The Christmas table should have been filled with warmth – laughter over gifts, clinking glasses, and stories about the kids. But for one woman, that holiday glow turned bitter fast.

As her sister-in-law chatted breezily about baby names, she dropped a comment that sliced through the air like a broken ornament: “It didn’t matter what we called her – she wasn’t going to live with it anyway.”

The words hung heavy. For the woman, who had lost her own stillborn son and endured several miscarriages, it felt like her sister-in-law had just declared that her baby – and every child lost too soon – mattered less.

What began as small talk about names became the spark that reignited years of hidden grief.

Woman Tells Sister-in-Law She Can’t Say Her Stillborn Baby “Matters Less” - Family Turns Against Her
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AITA for telling my SIL that she can't say her stillborn baby matters less than her living children?

As background: my SIL had 3 living children before her stillbirth, and then gave birth to another living child 2 years later.

Her 4 Earth-side children have fairly common names, like Emma, Lauren, Sophie, and Andrew. Her stillborn daughter has a more unorthodox name, something like Soulstyce.

I have one son born sleeping and had several miscarriages. I have no living children, but I'm a mom to a little boy up in Heaven.

Anyways, at Christmas, many of our family members got to meet their new baby for the first time.

The subject of how his name was chosen came up, which lead to my grandmother asking why their stillborn daughter had such an "unusual" name compared to their living children.

My SIL explained that they gave their daughter a "guilty pleasure" name because it mattered less.

She said she wouldn't put her living children through the experience of having such an uncommon name, but that it didn't matter when it came to their daughter because she...

She even joked that she spent a quarter of the time picking out their daughter's name that they did choosing their other children's names because "it just didn't matter" and...

It hurt me to hear her say that. I've spent six years feeling like I have no right to call myself a mother

and feeling excluded from the "mom's club" because my son died from circumstances beyond my control before I even got to hold him.

To have my SIL, who I have supported through each and every one of her pregnancies,

who I held and comforted through her stillbirth, say that her child didn't matter because she wasn't alive, that hurt. It felt very intensely personal.

I was right across from her at the table and she said it with no remorse. I don't care if it took her 5 minutes or 5 days to choose...

I haven't said a word about it since then. But I lost my job, I've had too much time to think, and I keep replaying the whole thing over in...

I've been stewing about it, I keep drawing away from her and I feel guilty.

So, I called her and told her that I had been really hurt by what she said. She was very callous, immediately, telling me to get over myself and not...

I got very upset and told her she couldn't talk about her daughter like she mattered less and she just outright said, "She does matter less."

I just started to cry. I hung up and my husband consoled me for a while, but my brother called me to chew me out,

saying I'd made his wife upset and she was already busy with their children and she didn't need to babysit me as well.

I've gotten texts and calls from half the family, most of them blaming me for not moving past my son's death.

My own mother told me it was time to start pursuing new family planning options

and that I was taking my distress at my loss out on my SIL. Reddit: AITA for telling my SIL she can't say that her child doesn't matter?

A Name That Never Got Spoken Enough

The Redditor had always tried to stay strong. She had been there for her sister-in-law through that same storm of loss – comforting her when her daughter, born sleeping, was given a rare name, Soulstyce. Back then, she understood it as something meaningful, a name full of light for a little girl who never got to see it.

But during that Christmas conversation, everything shifted. Her sister-in-law, now a mother to four living children with ordinary names like Emma and Andrew, joked that she had chosen Soulstyce because it was “low stakes” – no need to worry about teasing or spelling. The casual tone was like salt on an unhealed wound.

The Redditor sat there in silence, pretending to sip wine while her heart clenched. To her, every letter of her stillborn son’s name carried weight – the last connection to a life that ended before it began.

Hearing someone dismiss that sacredness so lightly made her question everything: Was she overreacting? Or had her grief just been invalidated in front of everyone?

For months, she let it fester, burying the pain under routine. But after losing her job and spending too much time alone with her thoughts, she couldn’t shake the sting of those words. So she picked up the phone and called her sister-in-law – hoping for closure, or at least understanding.

What she got instead was gasoline on the fire. The sister-in-law doubled down: “She does matter less.”

The line shattered what little peace they had left. Soon, the brother was shouting over text, accusing her of stirring old wounds. Other relatives chimed in, urging her to “move on.”

Even her mother suggested it was time to “plan for the future instead of the past.” But how do you move on from a love that never got to grow?

When Grief Speaks Different Languages

Every family deals with grief differently. For the sister-in-law, detachment might have been her shield. With four living kids to raise, she couldn’t afford to dwell in pain.

Choosing an unusual name for her stillborn daughter, then joking about it later, might have been her way to survive – not to forget, but to compartmentalize.

From the Redditor’s side, however, that detachment felt like betrayal. She had built her identity around honoring the memory of her child. So hearing “it doesn’t matter” stripped away something sacred.

A grief counselor might say both were right, in their own ways. Megan Devine, author of It’s OK That You’re Not OK, explains, “There is no ‘correct’ way to grieve… Comparing losses only deepens isolation.”

That sentiment echoes a 2022 Journal of Perinatal Education study noting that stillbirths often go socially unacknowledged, leaving parents isolated in “disenfranchised grief” – pain unrecognized by others.

The Redditor’s outburst, then, wasn’t about control or drama. It was a desperate attempt to validate something society often erases: that a life lost still matters.

I’ve known someone in that same space – a close friend who lost twins at 28 weeks. Her family never mentioned their names again, thinking it was “kind.”

But years later, she told me silence hurt more than any sympathy could. “It felt like they’d never existed,” she said quietly. Sometimes, speaking a name is the only proof love ever happened.

So, what should have been done differently? Maybe both women needed to pause – not to agree, but to listen. The sister-in-law could have said, “That was how I coped, but I understand why it hurts you.”

The Redditor could have shared her pain sooner, before resentment took root. Because in families, unspoken feelings rarely fade – they just wait for the next holiday to explode.

Here’s what people had to say to OP:

When this story hit Reddit, the reactions poured in. Many users sided with the grieving mom.

Fleurming0z − Let me understand this: You have experienced child loss, a baby born still, and you called another mother on the phone,

out of the blue, to tell her that how she felt about her own child dying had something to do with you? YTA.

She said that the baby wouldn't have to go through life with an odd or unusual name.

She didn't say she didn't want the baby, that she wished the baby hadn't died. You are projecting on her your own hurt.

This is not right. She named the child something she loved that she knew wouldn't be ok "in real life" but that gave her pleasure.

Calling someone out of the blue to chastise them about grief is terrible. You should apologize.

Likely_Not_Your_Mom − YTA she can feel how she wants without other people trying to gatekeep feelings about their kids.

I get how it hits a sore spot for you, but she didn’t say this about your baby, she said it about her baby and it has nothing to do...

Edit: it also does not sound like she said her baby doesn’t matter, it sounds like she said she could name her stillborn baby

whatever she wanted, because that baby wouldn’t go through a long life with a weird name.

She then named her baby a name that she truly wanted rather then spending a bunch of time agonizing

about what everyone else would think throughout the course of that child’s life. Which is also totally fine.

madelinegumbo − YTA Grief is weird. Her grief isn't your grief. It isn't a judgment on you or your child. We all deal with pain differently, don't judge her for...

She didn't say her child didn't matter. She said her child having an unusual name didn't matter in that it wouldn't impact their life. That's just factual, if bluntly stated.

Others thought she reopened an old wound, projecting unresolved grief onto someone who had simply coped differently. 

Letsgo_321 − YTA Gentle YTA. You went and stirred the pot because you decided that how someone lives their life somehow affects you and gives you the right how to...

Gravy415 − Yeesh. Okay, first of all, I am sorry for your loss. However, I have to go with YTA here.

You cannot project your experience onto her and you cannot control how she processes her own grief.

It is completely possible that she isn't as open about her trauma and by outwardly saying the other child doesn't matter as much, it allows her the strength to move...

I do not believe, for one second, that she has no love for her lost baby or that she doesn't feel pain.

She has living children she can focus on and has likely taken solace in them.

What you have been through is horrible but it doesn't mean you should expect her to suffer and cope in the same ways you have had to.

A few offered empathy to both, noting that family dynamics and pain rarely mix well during the holidays. 

Melcistima − YTA - it sounds like you’re putting words in her mouth by saying she was explaining her stillborn child didn’t matter,

when her reasoning was that her stillborn child wouldn’t have to live through the experience of an unusual name, which can be challenging.

It sounds nothing like a personal attack at you nor a belittling of her children.

While it’s understandable why you took it differently, it’s also not your place to reframe her explanation.

aitathrowwwwwwwww − YTA. How dare you put your personal s__t on another person like that. Shame on you.

I feel sorry for people who have stillborn babies but the ones who carry on as if they are still parents

and have kids and using all this creepy phrasing like “born sleeping” and “Earthside” are downright deluded. You’re no more a mother than if you’d had a miscarriage.

That’s what a still birth is basically a very late term miscarriage. You can delude yourself that this matters to you as much as you like

but you had no right to increase your SIL’s pain over her loss by dragging her into your fantasy world. Get help.

helpfulDeathgod − YTA. I'm not gonna go and say that a stillborn child really doesn't matter, but for a lot of people, they don't.

You've had a lot of loss, and you have my condolences for it, but you cannot attach yourself to something

that will have no further impact on your life and others and then be mad when someone wants nothing to do with it.

For her to be attached so much to a concept of a child as much as her living children, is an insult to the living children.

Everyone copes differently, but don't let your coping mechanism bring you or others further harm. In this case it's hurting you.

Edit: First 1k and first Silver and it's for calling someone TA, but gently.

scrimshandy − My mother had 2 late miscarriages, and she was always very frank about them with me: “the baby just wasn’t compatible with life.”

They both occurred after my brother and I were born, so at that point she had 2 living children. Once in high school I asked her if it was the...

She told me, “it’s tragic, but it’s not the same. You know your kids. You’ve had more time to love them for them and who they are.”

I would argue that your SIL’s attitude - that the stillborn matters less than her still children is healthy. Of course it matters less! It’s dead!

The well-being is the children who are alive matter than the memory of a dead one.

These children don’t have to grow up in the shadow of a dead sibling, which I’ve seen some people do, it’s traumatic.

YTA. Lockdown is making us all stir crazy. But you had no right to go on stirring the pot

Weet_1 − YTA but you need to realize everyone processes things different. She has 4 babies that she can see and feel and hear right in front of her.

Whereas she has one that she has no connection to beside the fact that she carried them to term.

It sounds like you have a lot of grief and inner turmoil, which is completely understandable, but you're projecting that onto someone else.

I hope you find peace over this because it's obvious she hurt you, but you can't tell other people how to feel about their own experiences.

The Final Word

What started as holiday small talk became a mirror reflecting two very different ways of surviving loss – one through emotional distance, the other through sacred remembrance. Both women loved deeply, but their grief collided instead of coexisting.

Maybe that’s the hardest truth of all: love doesn’t end when a heartbeat does, but neither does the pain.

So what do you think – was the Redditor right to confront her sister-in-law for minimizing her stillborn child, or did she cross a line by forcing her own grief onto someone else’s healing?

Charles Butler

Charles Butler

Hey there, fellow spotlight seekers! As the PIC of our social issues beat—and a guy who's dived headfirst into journalism and media studies—I'm obsessed with unpacking how we chase thrills, swap stories, and tangle with the big, messy debates of inequality, justice, and resilience, whether on screens or over drinks in a dive bar. Life's an endless, twisty reel, so I love spotlighting its rawest edges in words. Growing up on early internet forums and endless news scrolls, I'm forever blending my inner fact-hoarder with the restless wanderer itching to uncover every hidden corner of the world.

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