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DIL Can’t Swim But Wants To Kayak Rapids, MIL Says No And Son Threatens Not to Go

by Layla Bui
November 24, 2025
in Social Issues

Some family conflicts start with something small and practical, only to grow because everyone reacts from emotion instead of logic.

Outdoor adventures make that even trickier, because what sounds exciting can quickly become dangerous for anyone who is not prepared. And when one person wants to join in without meeting the basic skill requirements, the pressure starts building.

A parent recently shared how their annual kayaking trip turned into a debate with their son and daughter-in-law. The expectation has always been clear: the river can be unpredictable and only confident swimmers should take part.

But this year, the daughter-in-law wanted to go despite having no swimming ability at all, and the son insisted the rule should be bent for her. Scroll down to see how this disagreement escalated.

A man refuses to let his non-swimmer daughter-in-law join a choppy-river camping trip, upsetting his son

DIL Can’t Swim But Wants To Kayak Rapids, MIL Says No And Son Threatens Not to Go
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'AITA for not allowing my DIL to join a camping trip and doubling down on it?'

I am an outdoors person, and before the weather gets too cold I do a camping trip.

We kayak down the the river make camp on the bank. It is a lot of fun and is a two night trip.

I have done this with all of my kids and have started to invite their spouses, some show up and some don’t. (Not everyone likes camping).

The river we kayak on can get a fast and choppy in places. I have a strict no kids under 10 rules and that they have to good swimmers.

This bring me to my sons wife (Jane- fake name) Jane can not swim at all.

She never learned as a child and she still hasn’t learned as an adult. The most I have ever seen her do is go into the shallow end in a...

My son wanted to invite Jane and I told him no, that this is safety concern becuase she can not swim.

Jane was very upset about it and told me it would be fine. I told her no again and if she learns how to swim she can come next year

Jane is upset and my son is also upset. He has told me he can’t go if she isn’t invited and I stuck to my decision.

He is also no happy with me either.

Edit I think some people are confused. We kayak to the first campsite, sleep, kayak to the next sleep and kayak to the final spot and head home.

In this story, OP is navigating a familiar human conflict: wanting to include everyone while also carrying the heavy responsibility of keeping them safe.

At the same time, his daughter-in-law, Jane, is dealing with the sting of exclusion, even if the reason isn’t personal. These situations hurt because they threaten two very human needs: belonging and security.

From OP’s perspective, his reaction wasn’t rooted in control or favoritism. It came from fear of a real risk. A multi-day kayaking trip on choppy water isn’t a casual outing, especially for someone who cannot swim.

His “no” wasn’t about Jane; it was about the river. When someone feels responsible for a group’s safety, their instinct is to set firm boundaries, even if doing so creates emotional discomfort. OP was trying to prevent a nightmare scenario he’d never forgive himself for.

Jane, meanwhile, is experiencing something just as real: the pain of feeling left out of a family tradition. Research on social belonging shows that exclusion, even unintended, activates the same emotional distress centers in the brain as physical pain.

This helps explain her reaction. To her, being told “you can’t come” sounded like a rejection, especially because other spouses were included.

Relationship psychology also explains the son’s response. Couples often experience “solidarity pressure,” a natural urge to defend or align with a partner when they feel hurt. The Gottman Institute, which researches long-term relationship dynamics, notes that partners instinctively protect each other’s sense of belonging, even at the expense of family peace.

OP, however, made his decision based on an established rule, not a spontaneous judgment. Safety guidelines that prevent drowning, even for adults, are supported by data. The American Canoe Association states clearly that “proficiency in swimming significantly reduces risk during paddle sports, especially in moving water.”

This reinforces that OP’s boundary wasn’t arbitrary, it was consistent with national safety recommendations.

In the end, everyone’s feelings make sense: OP’s fear, Jane’s hurt, the son’s loyalty. The heart of the conflict isn’t about kayaking; it’s about how love and safety sometimes pull in opposite directions.

Here’s the input from the Reddit crowd:

These commenters centered their point on basic safety

OkeyDokey654 − NTA. You might try “sorry son, but I like your wife and don’t want to be responsible for her death.”

Impressive-End241 − NTA. I kayak every year and am a decent swimmer.

No way would I do fast and choppy in a kayak, even with a life vest, especially if I couldn't swim AT ALL.

"told me it would be fine. " She can't guarantee that. And if it's NOT FINE, it goes south 0-100 real fast.

Still-Degree8376 − NTA at all. I had a lovely young coworker who grew up outdoorsy, great swimmer.

Her kayak flipped and she drowned. Safety will ALWAYS come first.

This group questioned the son’s judgment, wondering why he’d risk his wife’s life just to keep plans intact

Foreign_Plan_5256 − NTA  I understand him bowing out if his wife isn't going, but this is a matter of basic safety.

Why is he willing to risk his wife's life?

keesouth − NTA. She isn't equipped to go one this trip and there is also nothing wrong with your son's decision to stay behind.

You'd think as her husband he'd be more concerned with her safety.

No_Abroad_6306 − NTA because it’s not just Jane’s life at risk. People die trying to save drowning victims.

These users drew on real outdoor experience, describing how quickly water accidents escalate

newlightrn − NTA. I am a paddle craft safety certified boy scout leader. Have been kayaking most of my life.

I have taken kids on kayak trips. You have 2 huge dangers in there. A) dil can't swim. Not even a little. B) Dil doesn't know how to kayak.

Rivers are dangerous even for us with experience. I myself have gotten in dangerous positions over the years.

And have been in control of 14+ people on a river. Have taken my kids on rivers. I know rescues and can read rivers.

I unfortunately have seen some dangerous s__t and have witnessed people almost die. ( Not my groups) Have seen broken legs, head injuries ECT.

I over estimated my son's experience once and that could have been a lot worse than it was, but I was able to handle the situation.

Which then ended in me paddling my kayak with out a paddle in class 3 waters for 4 miles.

Nothing scares the bajesus out of a mom then realizing their child is pinned against a rock.

In a strong ass current. And he was 5'7 and a 14 year old male.

Or when I had a 3 year old riding on my kayak and my 8 year old got hung up on a tree, I tried to pull him off and...

Holding a little and trying to get us all to safety and grab the boats.

( The other adults were fu. ....g off and ended up in a huge fight because they left me with 5 kids under 12. ) Water is DANGEROUS.

I have taken my kids out since they were littles. Always a 1:1 with anyone under 8 and 2 to 1 over that.

Until they are 12. I learned to swim in a river. I am strong and fast.

And I can read the the rivers. It's best she learn to kayak on a lake. Learn to swim. Then she can go

rlrlrlrlrlr − NTA I've done the same thing with backpacking, which is even less dangerous.

Don't want to do safety checks even though you're an absolute newbie? Ok, you're not going.

If they aren't going to respect safety expectations pre-trip, why would you think they'd listen to any limitations during the trip?

These commenters pushed back hard on the idea that a life vest replaces swimming ability

stillrooted − NTA and frankly kind of stunned at the number of commenters

who think a life jacket is a sufficient replacement for swimming skills in moving water.

PFDs significantly reduce your risk of drowning. They don't grant magic 100% immunity to the dangers of falling in water.

HolSmGamer − NTA. Being able to swim is a good rule to have when you are surrounded by water.

A death would definitely ruin the camping trip so she can start learning for next year.

Ok_Bank_5950 − If she can't swim she cant go. It's a safety issue, period!

caityjay25 − NTA. I’ve known people who have died in kayaking/rafting accidents.

Not being able to swim is incredibly unsafe, no matter what other safety devices you’re using (PFDs, etc).

Them not thinking this is a big deal does not raise any confidence in their decision-making

This commenter framed OP’s actions as thoughtful and protective

DaRealPeppaPig − Def not the a__hole, if anything just a good MIL.

I’m assuming because she's married to your son then she’s been around for at least 1-2 years.

(Given they started dating and got married within that time).

I’m also assuming this is a long standing tradition and that there’s no other way to get to camp other than kayaking.

Your son also knows all this info, he’s also done it. So he knows how dangerous it is.

She’s been around long enough to know about this trip and what it entails.

If she really wanted to go and it was that important to your son then she could’ve learnt .

She likely had time to learn to swim efficiently enough that a life jacket would be the extra push she needed to be safe.

If they’re that pressed about not going camping , then suggest going to some camp in the woods

with no swimming after you go on your fun kayak adventure. You did good mom

So what do you think? Should the OP have bent the rule for the sake of harmony, or was this one of those times where holding the boundary was the only sane option? And is the son’s reaction understandable or overblown? Share your take below.

Layla Bui

Layla Bui

Hi, I’m Layla Bui. I’m a lifestyle and culture writer for Daily Highlight. Living in Los Angeles gives me endless energy and stories to share. I believe words have the power to question the world around us. Through my writing, I explore themes of wellness, belonging, and social pressure, the quiet struggles that shape so many of our lives.

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