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Lurker Tells Reddit Empathy Matters, Now Strangers Call Her “Toxic” For Not Worshipping Revenge

by Leona Pham
January 5, 2026
in Social Issues

Everyone likes to believe they would handle conflict with calm and grace. But when you feel disrespected, embarrassed, or blindsided, your reaction can come out sharper than you intended.

And sometimes the hardest part is realizing that your feelings were valid, while your delivery still left damage behind. One Redditor has been watching a pattern unfold on AITA: posts where someone gets wronged, lashes out, and then gets instantly crowned faultless.

The question they raise is simple but uncomfortable: is being hurt the same thing as being right? Keep reading to see why this meta post sparked a surprisingly intense debate about accountability.

One Redditor challenged the idea that being hurt excuses every reaction

Lurker Tells Reddit Empathy Matters, Now Strangers Call Her “Toxic” For Not Worshipping Revenge
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'META You can still be the a__hole if you were wronged?'

I've been a lurker on this subreddit for a while, and as its been getting bigger, I've been noticing a trend in what's being posted.

OP was wronged, probably unintentionally, and had a poor reaction.

Their friends are saying it was over the top, mom is mad, the bystanders are upset, etc... are they the a__hole?

And there is a resounding chorus of NTA! You don't owe anyone anything!

Or someone was mean to OP, and they were mean back, and their friends say they shouldn't have been. AITA?

No! They were rude so you get to be as well! I dont think either of these really reflect how people should be engaging with others.

Sometimes we do things in the moment when we're upset or hurt we wouldn't do otherwise. These reactions are understandable.

But just because its understandable doesn't mean OP can't be the a__hole.

Being wronged doesnt give you a free pass to do whatever you want without apology.

People make mistakes, and people can be thoughtless or unkind.

It is possible to react to that in a way that is unnecessarily cruel or overblown.

"They started it" didn't work in kindergarten and it shouldn't now.

This sub isn't "was this person in the wrong to do this to me?" it's "Am I the a__hole." ESH exists.

NAH exists. "NTA, but you should still apologize/try better next time" exists. Let's all try and be a little more nuanced and empathetic

Most people know the feeling: someone crosses a line, and the body reacts before the mind can edit it. In real life, that surge can look like snapping, sarcasm, a public callout, or a “fine, then I don’t owe you anything.”

The Reddit poster is pointing at a hard truth many of us quietly avoid: being hurt can explain a reaction, but it doesn’t automatically justify it.

At the center of their argument is an emotional collision between self-protection and self-respect. When an OP feels wronged, the nervous system often shifts into threat mode, narrowing choices down to “defend” or “submit.” In that state, a harsh comeback can feel like reclaiming power.

Meanwhile, commenters who shout “NTA!” may be protecting a value they deeply crave in their own lives: the right to set boundaries without being guilted. But the poster is nudging the community toward something more mature: accountability that doesn’t erase the original harm.

A fresh angle here is how online spaces can turn emotional regulation into a performance. “Winning” the conflict becomes the point, and moral clarity becomes addictive. In that dynamic, retaliation can be framed as empowerment, and nuance can feel like betrayal.

Different people also read the same story through different threat filters. Some prioritize fairness (“they started it”), while others prioritize relational stability (“that response escalated”). Neither lens is evil. They’re just different strategies for safety.

Psychologist Leon F. Seltzer argues that revenge is intensely personal and often slides into vindictiveness, while justice is meant to be more impartial and grounded in shared standards of fairness. In his framing, “getting even” tends to degrade the situation rather than resolve it, because it invites cycles of retaliation instead of closure.

Research summarized by the Association for Psychological Science similarly notes that revenge can feel rewarding in the moment, yet often keeps the original wound “green,” prolonging distress rather than relieving it.

Applied to AITA culture, that expert lens suggests a sharper question than “Was I wronged?”: “Did my response move me toward the person I want to be?” An OP can be both sympathetic and still responsible for the impact of their reaction.

That’s not victim blaming; it’s values-based living. The more useful verdicts are often the uncomfortable ones: “You didn’t deserve what happened, and you can still do better next time.”

A realistic takeaway isn’t “communicate more,” but pause long enough to choose your standard. Hurt is real. Boundaries are real. So is the difference between protecting yourself and punishing someone else.

Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

These Redditors argued that being justified doesn’t erase a bad reaction, making many cases ESH

Hunterofshadows − I think the issue here is that some people see a justified a__hole as NTA and others,

like myself, see a justified a__hole as still an a__hole, making it ESH

slicshuter − Agreed, and I'm also finding more and more people saying NTA alongside the phrase "You're not obligated to. "

This sub isn't "AmIAllowedTo", it's "AmItheAssHole". You can be within your rights to do/not do something and still be an a__hole as a result.

This group stressed that others’ bad behavior doesn’t justify cruelty or revenge in return

fearmyminivan − The comment I keep saying is “you can’t let someone else’s bad behavior justify your bad behavior. ” I usually get downvoted.

HyacinthFT − Yeah. I've seen a few of those. The big distinction people fail to make is between

"This other person did something bad to me & my reaction, which hurt them, was for the better"

and "This other person did something bad so I get to be mean back.

" The first can be, for example, punishing a kid, setting a boundary with a relative, cutting off contact with a toxic ex, self-defense to stop the harm.

But revenge makes you the a__hole, even if you feel justified in being an a__hole.

It's sometimes hard to tell the difference, sure, but most of the time it isn't.

These commenters criticized Reddit’s “play stupid games” logic that excuses any retaliation

taintpaint − Play stupid games, win stupid prizes -Reddit-ese that roughly translates to

"if you do something I don't like, literally any negative consequence is justified"

[Reddit User] − It’s like “two wrongs don’t make a right”, except the point is better phrased as you can be somewhat justified, but still be an a__hole.

I also think there are a lot of people on here who just don’t see shades of gray.

These Redditors mocked how extreme reactions still get NTA verdicts despite clear overreach

McG0788 − God, finally! I was going to post the same thing. So many posts lately where it's clearly an ESH

because of how the OP responded but nope you get downvoted for saying OP could have handled the situation better.

[Reddit User] − Agreed. I got heavily downvoted for saying you shouldn't lace toothpaste with ghost peppers. This sub really has a real big justice boner

[Reddit User] − I lurk on here a lot and this sub serves as a constant reminder for how naive most people on this website are.

So many questions go like, "AITA for pile driving an 8-year-old girl?

I was at the park and this little girl said my beard was stupid so I took her straight to the mat. AITA?

" And then the top 5 highest rated comments are all, "NTA man, she had it coming.

Little b__ch shouldn't write checks her ass can't cash. " It's almost absurd.

This group warned the sub encourages cutting off relationships over single incidents

Yelloeisok − I think the sub is turning into a place where people are seeking justification to end their relationships.

That isn’t going to work out for them in the long run.

too-cute-by-half − A lot of it is driven by young people having very big feelings about family not respecting their autonomy,

and projecting that rage at your parents onto all kinds of adult relationships.

holidayarmadill0 − The amount of times I’ve seen people on this sub trash an OP’s relationship or tell them to leave their spouse is just crazy.

Like years of building the relationship and good times should be immediately forgot just because of one incident.

It’s insane, I assume these people have never really been in a relationship before?

These users argued the sub resists generosity and empathy beyond bare minimum obligations

[Reddit User] − Yes, on one sub today, OP got a 95% response rate NTA for walking out a surprise party he’s mother gave him

because his friends weren’t there. Oh, and he didn’t ask for it. His life, his rules, apparently.

Let’s be a little more accepting of others circumstances, we always have a chance at being the better person

nutmegisme − I agree. "They had it coming! " is a really common attitude here. I've noticed the same thing with questions of generosity.

People here seem really opposed to any notion of giving or doing more than you technically need to do.

But shouldn't we try to be a bit better than that especially if you're not hurting yourself or anyone else in the process?

This commenter suggested revenge culture avoids self reflection and fuels cognitive dissonance

TheMoniker1 − A lot of people want to jump on the "revenge" train because if somebody else overreacted, then they might have to do some

self-reflection and consider that there may have been times in the past where they overreacted to being wrong, too. Oh, who am I kidding.

People on the internet are immune to cognitive dissonance. But I don't want this sub to become another r/ProRevenge, so please, take my upvote.

The post didn’t demand perfection, just pause. Many readers agreed that pain explains reactions but doesn’t automatically excuse them. Others felt Reddit has drifted from reflection toward validation at any cost.

So where’s the balance? Is it fair to expect grace from someone who’s hurting, or is that expectation exactly what keeps relationships intact?

Do you believe being wronged changes the moral math, or should accountability always stay in the equation? Drop your thoughts below.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS STORY?

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS STORY?

OP Is Not The AH (NTA) 0/0 votes | 0%
OP Is Definitely The AH (YTA) 0/0 votes | 0%
No One Is The AH Here (NAH) 0/0 votes | 0%
Everybody Sucks Here (ESH) 0/0 votes | 0%
Need More INFO (INFO) 0/0 votes | 0%

Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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