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Daughter-In-Law Calls About Lunch Plans, Gets Told She Isn’t A Real Daughter

by Annie Nguyen
December 23, 2025
in Social Issues

Being welcoming to new family members does not always mean changing everything that came before. Still, where that line should be drawn is not always obvious, especially when emotions are involved.

The OP, a mother of adult children, planned a familiar mother-daughter get-together that has been part of her family dynamic for years. When her daughter-in-law reaches out asking about the plans, the OP is caught off guard and responds bluntly.

What follows is a wave of backlash, tears, and accusations of being unkind. Reddit users were split on whether the boundary was fair or the delivery crossed a line. Keep reading to see why this situation struck such a nerve.

A mother’s private lunch tradition with her daughters is disrupted when her daughter-in-law expects an invitation

Daughter-In-Law Calls About Lunch Plans, Gets Told She Isn’t A Real Daughter
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'AITA got telling my DIL that she isn’t my kid and she isn’t invited to a daughter’s lunch?'

I have two daughters when they were younger my wife

and I realized that I spent more time with the boys

and she spent more time with the girls.

So we made father-daughter dates for me and she does son-mom dates.

They are all adults now but we still do those dates but they are just less often.

So my two daughters and I are going to have tea house,

the youngest picked it and just catch up.

Now my oldest son got married to Sue.

She is a nice girl and I see her at holidays and other events.

I got a call from Sue asking about times for tea.

I was confused and asked what she was talking about.

She explained the daughter-father date and I am her daughter in law.

I told her this is just a thing between me and my daughters.

She repeated that she is my daughter in law.

This went on for a few time until I told her

that she isn’t my kid and that she is not invited.

She hung up and now I am getting calls from my oldest

( my son, her husband) for being a jerk

and not welcoming her into the family.

Update: I had a conversation with my son, he is the one that mentioned it.

I explained what happened and he told me

that is what he heard from Sue after she calmed down.

He called me a jerk since she was crying and he thought I flipped out on her.

I also talked to Sue and she gave an apology, and I apologized for being harsh.

She heard about it from my son

and thought it would be a nice way to get closer to my daughters.

I explained the tradition and she told me she understood from the first call.

She panicked since I told her no so she kept repeating.

She told me she was quite embarrassed and asked

if she was still invited to the Halloween dinner coming up, she is.

She wants a closer relationship with my daughter since she is an only girl on her family.

I told her that is a conversation with them

and trying to force herself into traditions won’t help that.

I suggested she invite them out to a winery or something..

Also she did find this thread.

This story sits at the intersection of family boundaries, emotional inclusion, and communication styles, a common dynamic as families expand through marriage.

Family psychologists note that in-law relationships can be complex because they blend pre-existing bonds with new expectations.

As one article on family dynamics explains, when adult children form new families, “the circle of relationships expands… sometimes in complicated ways,” and this requires balancing love, loyalty, and respect for individual roles within the family.

It’s important to recognize that marriage creates not just a new partnership but also new relational expectations. Studies on in-law dynamics show that parents and in-laws may differ in how much similarity and connection they want with their child’s spouse, and this can affect emotional comfort within the family.

Experts also emphasize that communication and emotional intelligence are key. According to relationship expert Dr. Tracy Dalgleish, healthy mother-in-law and daughter-in-law relationships tend to involve flexibility, respect, shared rituals, and boundaries that honor both family traditions and individual roles.

This aligns with common therapeutic advice: open, empathetic dialogue often prevents misunderstandings from becoming emotional rifts.

In this case, the daughter-in-law’s interest in joining reflects a desire for connection and acceptance. The father’s desire to preserve a meaningful tradition with his daughters is also understandable.

The tension arose not because the boundary was unreasonable, but because the delivery lacked clarity and empathy, which made the daughter-in-law feel sidelined rather than informed.

What might help moving forward is a conversation that acknowledges both perspectives: reaffirming the value of the father-daughter tradition while also exploring separate ways to build inclusion and a relationship with the daughter-in-law, perhaps through new shared activities or invitations that are clearly intentional.

At its heart, this situation underscores a core family message: traditions can be treasured without being exclusionary, but only when communication and feelings are respected.

Here’s what the community had to contribute:

These commenters focused on who misled Sue and wanted the missing context clarified

makingburritos − INFO: Who invited her? She obviously was told by someone.

No one overhears a conversation and just invites themselves to things without telling anyone.

Given she called and asked what time tea was, someone must’ve told her she could go.

Whoever said person was should’ve communicated with you,

but I’m interested to know if it was one of your daughters.

justcupcake − INFO: are either of your daughters married?

If yes, do their partners join your son on your wife’s day out?

[Reddit User] − Info: how do your daughters feel about it?

If they wanted her to come, i’d invite her.

Or your wife, what does she think?

This group backed OP, arguing DIL isn’t entitled to private parent-child traditions

[Reddit User] − NTA she and your eldest are obviously hard of understanding!

This is a simple premiss, you have a tea date with your daughters.

I am not sure what either of them are missing in that.

She is not your daughter. Does your wife still have Mum Son dates?

Perhaps she could explain it to your eldest!

toosheeptheorist − NTA there's a difference between keeping something between you

and your daughters and "not welcoming her to the family".

Those dates were set up so you could spend time with your kids, not her.

There is no reason that she would be going.

I'm not sure if it's entitlement or what,

but I never expected my FIL to treat me the same as his actual daughter.

shrimpely − NTA. I would never call my FIL and demand something like this.

What they do in their free time together is their business not mine.

If I wanna do something like this also, I politely ask.

These Reddit users suggested inclusion, sharing examples of healthier, blended families

WheelPurple835 − You obviously don't have to invite your DIL.

I will say, however, that I had the greatest MIL in the world

and one of the reasons is that she immediately included me

and her other DIL in most of the girls events that she did with her daughter,

like lunches and shopping trips.

(Not every time, they also had some mother daughter events alone).

Because she accepted me so completely in the family, even though she has now passed,

my SIL and I are still incredibly close, actually closer than I am to my bio sister.

Our children are as close as siblings

and the entire extended family gets along beautifully with no drama.

bigbeefandched − Eh NTA i guess but based on your comments

you guys seem to have a strange (to me at least) family dynamic.

Why are you so adamant that she’s not your kid?

You almost seem angry that someone married into the family.

My parents always tried to include my wife in sibling and family thing

even before we were married and now love that she calls them mom and dad.

Only seeing her on holidays is odd too if your wife

and son have mother-son outings regularly

and you have father-daughter outings, do you just not see your son?

This group agreed everyone handled it poorly, citing miscommunication and lack of tact

lestabbity − ESH Don't laugh at your daughter in law that's just mean

and dismissive and she obviously already felt like she wasn't being included

What did your son even tell her, since that seems the most likely place she got the info

(and the idea that she was invited)

Also, dil is presumably a legal adult and could have been more tactful,

like "hey sorry if this is out of line-[son] told me about the dad-daughter tea.

It sounds lovely, but I'm a little unclear if I am included since I married in,

so I thought I'd just go straight to the guy in charge!

If I missed an invitation, please just let me know when to show up,

and if I misunderstood, I hope you have a great time,

and I'd love to meet you and the sisters for lunch some other time!

" Edit for clarity/dudes who want to nitpick:

his response was blunt to the point of mean the way he described it,

but he didn't laugh at her, according to his comments his WIFE laughed at DIL

for feeling like she should have been included,

so I'd like to add op's wife to the list of people who suck here,

because that's still mean even if DIL was presumptuous and not misled by her husband.

lizzybell2019 − ESH You suck for not being more tactful and trying to find out

who made her believe she was invited.

She sucks for not backing down immediately and going straight back to the person

who made her believe that she was invited.

Whoever made her believe that she was invited sucks for not talking to you first.

However, if you wish to be a part of the lives of any grandchildren from her,

you need to step back and get to the bottom of this and learn to be kinder

when faced with something like this,

especially if YOUR son is causing this triangulation.

These commenters roasted OP’s delivery, saying he was needlessly harsh and alienating

sharethewine − YTA for how you handled it.

You referred to it as her demanding, but I don’t see that in what you typed.

You could have explained this is a tradition with just your daughters

to keep in touch with them and your wife does the same with the sons

like you explained it to us. Instead you told her she isn’t your kid.

You’ve now laid the ground work for your future relationship with your DIL.

She isn’t your kid so she owes you absolutely nothing that most kids would do for a parents.

And newsflash for you the wives do most of the family relationship maintenance.

Gifts at birthdays and holidays, favors, planning events you should get NOTHING

from this woman ever again.

From the sounds of it you probably can’t expect much from your son either.

Yes, you were right in that she doesn’t need to be included,

but you totally screwed the delivery.

SparklepantsMcFartsy − Sorry buddy, but YTA. Hear me out.

From your replies to comments, even a blind person could see how much you dislike your DIL.

You vehemently dislike her and your disdain just drips off every word.

I'm sure she knows you don't like her.

It's sad. I was the DIL my in laws didn't like,

and I can empathize with what your DIL is feeling.

Are you required to involve her in your little family traditions?

No. Not in the slightest. And you're not TA for not inviting her.

You want this to be some special bonding time with your adult daughters

because you were (and let's admit it, are) probably an emotionally unavailable dad.

You don't seem to be in contact with feeling like empathy, kindness, generosity,

or basic decency because otherwise you would have either offered an invitation to her

or you would have been kinder in how you put up your boundary.

Putting up a boundary like not wanting her to come

because you just want your biological family there is reasonable and understandable.

Saying what you did, and how you said it was unnecessarily cruel.

I'd bet my 11th toe you were cruel on purpose so she never has the audacity to think

she's welcome in your family ever again let alone in the first place.

And buddy, who counts how many hours they've spent with in laws

or "found family" (whatever tf that is)? 75 hours?

My god man, I have cousins who I know I haven't spent that much time around

and I still love them dearly and treat them with kindness.

It's not that hard. It's 2023.

Get some empathy, get some therapy, and get over yourself. Jfc.

ElectricalTip4614 − I feel sorry for Sue.

You say she is a nice girl and it sounds like for some reason she thought

she was included in this event as part of the family,

(group post? invite or info from her husband? ).

IDK how you actually handled the conversation but you make it sound

as if you were quite blunt whereas perhaps you could have handled the situation better.

I imagine she feels rejected, embarrassed, and family relationships will suffer

because of what appears to be a lack of tact on your part.

If this is the case, YTA. Edit to add...

I can understand you wanting to see just your daughters,

but it is possible to explain that with tact and grace.

Aggressive_Risk_4246 − YTA. Great way to alienate your DIL.

Harsh & rude response to new comer making the effort.

Not enough time to have a new tradition?

Of course still do the tea with bio daughters.

A thoughtful person’s response might be “great idea for all of us to get together.

Why don’t you set it up.

I’m still doing the traditional father/daughter tea,

but we can start an additional tea tradition for the four of us. ”

One_Baby2005 − Seriously, your DIL literally wanted to go and have tea with her FIL

and SIL’s and instead of being kind and inclusive

and getting to know her without your son around you….

Mocked her, made her feel stupid and made her cry?

You don’t think that whatever this miscommunication was,

you couldn’t have seen any positive to having her come along just once?

So small-minded, and I doubt this is the first time she’s been treated like this in your family.

Add after reading update

This is so sad, she said outright she just wants to spend time with your daughters,

and after she’s been laughed at by her husbands family

and AH’s online she’s expected to ask your daughters to spend time with her?

I mean, perhaps THEY could ask HER?

And then she asks if she’s still allowed to attend a family dinner?

There’s something really wrong here. Just show a bit of kindness FFS.

In the end, this wasn’t a villain story; it was a collision of expectations, vulnerability, and blunt honesty. Many readers sympathized with the father’s right to protect meaningful traditions, while others couldn’t ignore how painful exclusion can feel, especially for someone trying to belong.

Do you think drawing a firm boundary justified the emotional fallout, or could empathy have changed everything? When family traditions meet new marriages, where should flexibility begin and end? Share your thoughts below.

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Annie Nguyen

Annie Nguyen

Hi, I'm Annie Nguyen. I'm a freelance writer and editor for Daily Highlight with experience across lifestyle, wellness, and personal growth publications. Living in San Francisco gives me endless inspiration, from cozy coffee shop corners to weekend hikes along the coast. Thanks for reading!

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