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Classmate Says Cleopatra Was Black, Egyptian Student Gives Her What She Pays For: A Lesson

by Jeffrey Stone
December 3, 2025
in Social Issues

You’re settled in a university lecture, scribbling notes, when a classmate Kennedy detonates a shocker: Cleopatra was Black. This hit an Alexandrian Egyptian Redditor hard as Cleopatra ruled her hometown. S

he fired back fiercely, sparking a heated clash of facts, passion, and flying accusations of heritage erasure. Tempers soared like chariots, now she questions if labeling it reverse bias crossed the line. The classroom erupted in cultural pride versus revisionist fire.

Egyptian student argues with classmate claiming Cleopatra was Black, the community blames Netflix.

Classmate Says Cleopatra Was Black, Egyptian Student Gives Her What She Pays For: A Lesson
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'AITA for telling my classmate cleopatra wasn’t black and calling her racist?'

Hi, I 25f am from Egypt, Al-iskenderia or as it’s called Alexandria in English.

I got into an argument with a classmate at my university, her name is Kennedy.

We were in history class and the teacher was giving a lecture on a Ptolemaic Egypt and the reign of Cleopatra and her Roman affairs.

The professor had an artist rendition of Cleopatra that looked like a typical Greek woman

and Kennedy raised her hand and told that the picture was a white washed.

She went on for thirty seconds about how it was British colonialism that painted Cleopatra as a white and not a black person.

But I sat closest to her but she didn’t know I was from the capital of the old state.

I told her that I was from Egypt and that Cleopatra was Greek and Sogdian. She said that was false and an insult to the Nubians.

I told her that the Nubians hadn’t ruled Egypt for centuries before Cleopatra and the Nubians are be black but the Egyptians were not and are not.

She was visibly offended and I felt bad but she doubled down on her argument.

After around a minute and a quarter of her continuing yapping I got p__sed off and called her a racist

and that she was erasing Egyptian and Hellenic history. I feel bad for being mean because I think I made her upset.

But I’m also confused why she even wanted to call Cleopatra a black because Kennedy’s white like a printer paper

or why she considered a white Cleopatra an insult. Am I the a__hole?

My boyfriend edited this but he’s also not an English native so can anybody tell me my grammar mistakes?

In this situation, our Egyptian Redditor, proudly repping Alexandria, found herself in a heated debate when Kennedy claimed an artist’s rendition of Cleopatra was “whitewashed” due to British colonialism.

Insisting the iconic queen was Black, Kennedy tied it to Nubian roots – but the Redditor, sitting right there, pushed back with facts: Cleopatra was of Greek and Sogdian descent from the Ptolemaic dynasty.

What started as a polite correction escalated into the Redditor labeling Kennedy’s stance as erasing Egyptian and Hellenic history, leaving her feeling guilty for the upset but baffled by the insistence.

Flip the coin, and Kennedy’s perspective isn’t pure villainy. It’s a classic case of misplaced enthusiasm in a world obsessed with reclaiming narratives.

Maybe she was channeling that Netflix docudrama vibe (you know the one), where modern lenses repaint history to spotlight underrepresented voices.

Her offense at a “white” Cleopatra could stem from seeing it as another win for colonial erasure, even if the facts don’t align.

The Redditor, though, felt her own identity under attack. Imagine someone rewriting your grandma’s story because it fits their agenda.

Zoom out, and this spat mirrors broader tussles over cultural ownership in education. Misinformation spreads faster than gossip at a reunion, especially with pop culture fueling the fire. Take the Jada Pinkett Smith-produced Netflix series on Cleopatra – it sparked lawsuits in Egypt for its portrayal, highlighting how entertainment can blur lines between fact and fiction.

According to a 2023 report from the BBC, debates over historical figures’ ethnicities have surged with streaming docs, often leading to real-world backlash. It’s not just academic, it’s about who gets to tell the story.

Enter the experts for some sage wisdom. Kathryn Bard, Professor of Archaeology and Classical Studies at Boston University, has noted, “Cleopatra VII was white – of Macedonian descent, as were all of the Ptolemy rulers, who lived in Egypt.”

This directly echoes the Redditor’s point: Kennedy’s Nubian link ignores centuries of dynastic gaps. Bard’s take urges us to stick to artifacts over assumptions, preventing history from becoming a game of telephone.

Neutral ground? Both sides could benefit from a chill pill and a library card. The Redditor might dial back the heat next time – facts win debates, fireworks just scorch.

And for Kennedy, a quick dive into primary sources (hello, Ptolemy family tree) could save face. Ultimately, invite open chats in class: “Hey, let’s explore this together!” It turns foes into fellow learners.

Here’s what Redditors had to say:

Some people affirm OP taught Kennedy accurate history.

its12amsomewhere − NTA, you stood your ground and she learned something instead of spreading fake news.

Suchafatfatcat − NTA. Wouldn’t Cleopatra’s family name (Ptolemy) be a huge clue that she was of Greek extraction?

You probably did this girl a huge favor. Who knows how long she would have gone about spouting her stupidity to everyone she met.

Now, she has an opportunity to think through the narrow mindset.

Others explain Cleopatra was Greek, with no evidence of Black heritage.

the-fresh-air − NTA, It’s said that Cleopatra is of Macedonian Greek heritage even if governing Egypt.

There is not enough, if any, evidence to suggest or support Cleopatra being Black. Even the name Ptolemy suggests they are Greek descent.

[Reddit User] − Does Kennedy know that Cleopatra lived closer to our lifetime than she did to "Ancient Eqypt"

and the Nubians hadn't ruled for some 600 years by the time Cleopatra was born???

swishcandot − NTA I hate this whole thing. Cleo was Greek. The Ptolemic dynasty was Greek. anyone who thinks otherwise isn't very bright.

Some blame Netflix’s portrayal for the widespread misconception.

Crazy4Swayze420 − Jada Pinket Smith black washed Cleopatra for her Netflix "documentary".

That is the only conclusion I can draw as why she might think Cleopatra was black.

For what it's worth some in Egypt sued Netflix over making Cleopatra black.

bluduuude − This here is my problem with blackwashing AND whitewashing.

People see the damn Netflix series and believe it's the truth. Historical characters should never get gender or race swapped. Is it a major problem?

Not at all, but it's subtly introduced that way, woven into common life until people don't question it anymore. In a decade or two it becomes a problem.

Others note regional education or motives behind Kennedy’s claim.

overtly-Grrl − I’m from the south in the US, not sure where she is from but our textbooks actually had her visualized as a darker brown skin tone.

I didn’t learn until later that she was not as dark as my textbooks depicted.

I would chalk it up to ignorance if it were my area but you’re saying this is university.

You’re not the a__hole. You’re in university. She’s getting what she paid for. An education.

Working_Cloud_909 − NTA. This Kennedy person probably wanted to play the white savior role,

which would support your calling her racist. Also the “white like printer paper” gave me a good real laugh.

In the end, this Cleopatra kerfuffle reminds us history’s not a choose-your-own-adventure book. Facts anchor the plot, even if feelings steal the show.

Our Redditor stood tall for her heritage without meaning harm, but the guilt lingers like spilled ink on papyrus.

Do you think calling out the misinformation was a power move or did the personal jab cross into drama queen territory?

How would you handle a classmate rewriting your cultural playbook? Share your hot takes and let’s keep the conversation rolling smoother than the Nile!

Jeffrey Stone

Jeffrey Stone

Jeffrey Stone is a valuable freelance writer at DAILY HIGHLIGHT. As a senior entertainment and news writer, Jarvis brings a wealth of expertise in the field, specifically focusing on the entertainment industry.

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