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Couple Wants Brother-In-Law’s Help Having Kids, He Demands She Carry Three Extra Babies For Him First

by Leona Pham
December 8, 2025
in Social Issues

Family plans can get complicated, but one couple found themselves in a situation far beyond anything they expected. They hoped to grow their family with the help of a relative who kindly offered to be a sp*rm donor.

But when that relative later discovered he could not have children with his own partner, the arrangement suddenly changed. Instead of donating once, he asked for something much larger: five pregnancies so both families could have the exact number of biological children they wanted.

What once felt like a loving gesture turned into a high-pressure demand that would require years of physical and emotional commitment. When the couple said no, nearly the entire family accused them of being unfair. Now the situation has escalated into a major conflict, leaving everyone asking the same question: was this request ever reasonable?

A couple hoping for two children is stunned when their sp*rm donor demands five pregnancies in return

Couple Wants Brother-In-Law’s Help Having Kids, He Demands She Carry Three Extra Babies For Him First
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'AITA for not wanting to "return the favour" by having 3 babies?'

I'm going to preface this by saying I don't think I'm TA, and neither does my wife,

but my in laws all think we are hypocrites and we want to see the other side of this and hopefully use that to figure out a way forward.

My wife and I are both women. My wife and I want kids, and we would like it if they could be related to us,

but obviously there's an issue there as far as making babies goes.

We were considering adoption when my wife suggested asking her older brother to donate sp*rm to us.

I know this sounds batshit crazy but they're siblings, so they look a lot alike and they're really close,

and this is the closest we could possibly get to having a child that's biologically both of ours.

The brother said he'd be willing to donate when we're ready and can't wait to be an uncle.

Since the brother agreed to this he and his wife have found out that his wife can't have kids.

Recently the brother told us he wants to renegotiate the sp*rm donor situation. In short, he wants to make 5 babies with me.

Again, I know how this sounds, and I wish this was fake. He and his wife want 3 kids, me and my wife want 2.

He wants me to go through 5 pregnancies, and he'll provide the sp*rm for each one, so biologically all 5 kids will be full siblings, but raised as cousins.

We get how big a favour he'd be doing us by donating, and we were honestly thrilled when he agreed,

but the thing is the amount of time he'd spend creating 5 babies is about an hour or so,

and the amount of time I'd spend is nearly 4 years (without recovery time).

I was fine with 2 lots of 9 months when I was keeping the babies,

but the idea of carrying those 2 plus 3 additional pregnancies, where I didn't keep the babies is a whole other thing.

When they asked my wife and I said no.

They asked why not, and our response was that he was asking me to go through 3 more pregnancies on top of the 2 we'd agreed on.

He then said that if we weren't willing to give him children, he wouldn't do the same for us.

We said that was his right to change his mind, but he was asking too much from us.

So now no one is having biological children.

My wife and I were seriously considering adoption before the brother suggestion ever came up, and we do still want to try that,

so at the end of the day we'd be just as happy to have a non biological child as a biological one,

however the brother, who doesn't want to adopt, has told their mother who has told the extended family,

and it appears that just about everyone in my wife's family believes that we should agree to it and "return the favour",

so basically if he gives us children then I should do the same for him,

and by the time I'm done, everyone has their desired number of biological babies.

The brother and his wife are similarly pressuring us, telling us they'd give us children so why won't we give them kids,

and that the two things are the same, and called us hypocrites because we'd have kids with their help but won't help them have kids.

Like I said at the start, my wife and I believe we're in the right,

but we want to hear if we actually are or not and what the other perspective might be in order to know how to proceed. AITA?

Info: neither wife in this scenario (my wife or his) is able to produce viable eggs or carry to term,

so some form of IVF/surrogacy wouldn't be possible involving either of them, and I'm basically the only chance at biological children for any of us.

The brother and his wife can't afford to pay a surrogate.

My wife and I are going back to adoption as our preferred route in the hopes that this will stop any further tension.

We have tried to negotiate the number of kids but they want exactly 3 kids,

and they want them all to be full siblings because they're worried if I gave them one child with the brother's sp**m

and they adopted the rest then they'd subconsciously prefer the one who was related to the brother.

To clarify: of the 2 biological requirements of creating children-producing viable eggs and carrying to term

- I am the only woman in this scenario that can do both, while my wife and my brother in law's wife can't do either.

The only people in this situation capable of having children are myself and my wife's brother.

AGAIN, BROTHER IN LAW. I AM NOT HAVING MY BIOLOGICAL BROTHER'S BABIES!

Also, we are going back to adoption, which was our plan before the brother was even suggested.

Family relationships often become strained when love and obligation start pulling in opposite directions. In this situation, the conflict arises not from a lack of generosity but from the vastly unequal stakes involved.

While the original agreement was a simple sp*rm donation, a gift of genetics, not bodily labor, the brother’s new request demanded years of physical, emotional, and medical burden from someone whose role was never meant to resemble that of a surrogate.

The heart of the issue is bodily autonomy, and the fear that family expectations can sometimes overshadow an individual’s right to set limits, even when everyone involved is hurting.

At the emotional core, the brother’s grief around infertility is real and understandably painful. Infertility often triggers a deep grief response, and research shows that couples facing infertility frequently struggle with feelings of failure, desperation, and identity loss.

The Mayo Clinic notes that infertility can cause “anger, grief, shame, and a loss of control”, feelings that can drive people to seek solutions that may unintentionally cross boundaries.

The OP’s experience, meanwhile, centers on the reality that pregnancy is not symbolic; it is a medically demanding, physically taxing process.

Harvard Health Publishing states that pregnancy significantly stresses the cardiovascular, musculoskeletal, and metabolic systems, and long-term risks rise with additional pregnancies, including pelvic floor injury and organ prolapse.

This situation reflects a cultural misunderstanding about “fairness.” The brother sees fairness as a reciprocal exchange of children, focusing on genetic contribution. But fairness cannot exist when one person’s “ask” requires nine months of medical risk, hormonal change, birth trauma, and recovery.

His contribution takes minutes; hers takes years. In psychology, this mismatch reflects a failure to recognize asymmetrical cost, where one party views an emotional desire as equal to another’s bodily sacrifice.

Expert insight helps clarify this boundary. According to Psychology Today, reproductive coercion includes any behavior that pressures or manipulates someone into pregnancy, even within families. It is defined as a violation of autonomy, regardless of intent, and is common when emotional distress leads others to minimize a woman’s right to choose what happens to her body.

Applying that insight here, the brother’s request and the extended family’s pressure cross from emotional appeal into coercion. Wanting a biological child does not justify asking another person to undergo repeated pregnancies for them.

The most constructive resolution is the one the couple already chose: stepping away from biological expectations and returning to adoption, where autonomy, boundaries, and mutual respect remain intact. Sometimes, the healthiest family decision is the one that protects everyone from demands that no one should be obligated to meet.

Here’s how people reacted to the post:

This group stresses that OP is not an incubator and the request is wildly unreasonable

GarrZillarr − NTA You are a human woman. NOT an incubator.

Carrying 1 child carries MANY risks, carrying 5, 3 of which you will have to then give away no matter the bond that may have formed?!

This is an unreasonable expectation and I think your rational is perfectly sound.

Also it is in no way a fair trade, at the end of the day, with your partners consent,

you could go out and do a bunch of one night stands until you got pregnant, he couldn't go out and do that to get his baby.

meepmeepcuriouscat − NTA. His entire request is premised on the idea that

pregnancy is an equal effort on the part of the sp*rm donor and the womb owner.

News flash for him: it isn't. You don't owe him any children at all. (On a side note, maybe give birth to 2, and have 1 child each?)

justamom318 − NTA they are wrong. You agreed to accepting sp*rm not becoming a surrogate.

And 5 pregnancies is a lot, physically and emotionally. And there are so many variables. How would you decide who gets what baby?

Like you keep the first, they get the second, you get the third, etc. what happens if there is a miscarriage? Does the order still stand?

What if you have one baby, then something happens and you can’t have anymore children?

Who keeps that baby? There is too much risk involved in this whole thing.

These commenters highlight the massive physical risks and unequal burden OP would carry

[Reddit User] − NTA this is a prime example of the disproportionate way that society views male and female contributions to reproduction.

You both donate DNA, yes.

But his contribution is: A) either completely pleasurable or at the worst awkward/embarrassing

B) takes under half an hour C) leaves him and his wife completely free once the babies are born Yours under their insane suggestion would be:

A) 5 inseminations B) 5 full pregnancies with all symptoms C) 5 labours D) 5 recoveries

E) depending on what type of IVF or insemination you do there’s a risk of some twins slipping in

F) you would be pregnant/recovering/being re-inseminated for more like 7-8 years

because no IVF clinic is going to get you pregnant again within a month or so of labour.

G) all of this whilst raising your own children which would be how you would spend the first 7-8 years of being a mother,

unless the deal would be that you do theirs first. Meaning you don’t even get a pay off until the last two. THIS IS ABSURD!

! I’m so horrified for you and genuinely sorry your BIL took the opportunity off the table for the old agreement.

Glad you’re happy with adoption and really hope the family can back off.

Hope listing it in this comment helps you see just how in the right you and your wife are.

It’s a horrific deal and so inhumane for them to ask, in my opinion.

Hopefully they and the family will come around and truly understand what was being asked of you. They are in no way equal.

indiebeaut − NTA - the brother faces no health risks from donating his sp*rm,

while you face considerable health risks from carrying 3 pregnancies to term, not including your own, especially if they’re all back to back.

Gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, high blood pressure and post-partum depression are just a few of the things you’d be risking three times for this deal.

His part of the deal, while vital, simply doesn’t compare as far as effort is concerned. But all that aside, you said no and that should be the end of...

For the brother to continue discussing the matter with outside parties and turn the family against you is awful

and I can’t imagine what they’d be like if you actually agreed and got pregnant with their children.

Leprophobia − NTA. Your perspective is spot on. Carrying three different children to term is many orders of magnitude greater than a sp*rm donation.

They aren't even in the same universe in terms of what is being asked of each person.

I might be a little more receptive to the idea of egg donation, if his wife was going to carry their children.

But even that is a more involved process and not really equitable to sp*rm donation. Good luck growing your family, however you decide to do it!

This group calls out the emotional manipulation and says OP owes nothing

Dszquphsbnt − NTA — OP is willing to give her freaking ova to her wife's brother—

but that's not good enough, because they can't afford a surrogate— give me a break.

This is the obvious solution. OP's brother and his wife need to come up with the money, or move on.

I N F O: Have you considered donating eggs for a surrogate to carry the other 3 children?

(Your eggs, his sp*rm, someone else's uterus-for-hire. )

bethfromHR − NTA. He's allowed to back out of the deal if he's uncomfortable,

but using it as punishment for you refusing to be a human incubator for 3+ years is straight up assholery.

stephstav − Absolutely NTA. He's within his right to change his mind but what he's doing is emotional blackmail therefore he's the a**hole

These Redditors detail how multiple pregnancies would severely impact OP’s health and life

sailingwhiskey − NTA! My wife and I are also planning on kids eventually and have considered her brother as a donor, along with a very dear friend of mine.

My friend and I had considered me being a surrogate for him (he's gay)

but it would only be one and he'd help out since it would be a HUGE physical burden for me.

Jacking off in a cup is quick and easy compared to carrying an actual child for 40 weeks, let alone doing it 3 times.

Are they going to help with medical bills? Groceries? Housework? Will they support you like your wife will?

How do you pick and choose which of your children you'll be giving up?

It's entirely different from a typical surrogate scenario as they would be your eggs

and will not be financially compensated, so you're getting the s__t end of the deal.

Hell, you could pay him a couple hundred bucks and it'd be the same for him as if he went to a sp*rm bank and donated.

gxy_fexther − NTA I could MAYBE see if the brother wanted ONE child out of the arrangement, but 3 is absolutely ridiculous to me.

If you agree to bear 5 children in total, not only will you be pregnant almost constantly for years,

but the long-term physical toll of multiple children is heavy.

I’ve never had children myself and the only reason I know ANYTHING is because of friends/family members with children and from my pelvic floor PT.

Multiple childbirths can result in uterine and vaginal prolapse, bladder problems, and other pelvic floor issues.

Childbirth can also result in future s__ problems, like dryness, pain during s__, etc.

Then there’s also the mental and hormonal toll of almost constantly being pregnant.

[again, this is what I have heard from people I know and a physical therapist]

This next part isn’t necessarily a bad thing, depending on how you feel. But it is something that would bother me if I were in your position...

I don’t know how you would split up the pregnancies and which child belongs to whom,

but you will likely be pregnant throughout a lot of your child’s infancy and toddlerhood. I’m sorry this is such a long answer.

I am feeling particularly passionate about it because my fiancée (F) and I (F) have had similar problems in terms of childbearing and family “involvement”.

In SUMMARY: NTA. The mental and physical toll of 5 pregnancies is high and you could miss out on parts of crucial aspects of your kids’ lives.

A possible solution would be maybe 3 pregnancies in total... 2 for you, 1 for them (if you’re into that), but 5 is just too much imo. Best of luck...

kittynaed − NTA. I've had 4 kids. 4 well spaced kids. 4 easy pregnancies. 4 'easy' deliveries. I am insane.

No one in their right mind does this. It's still 9 months of minor aches and pains constantly. Having to acquire new clothes that fit around a bump.

Forgoing favorite vices like bloody steaks, fish, and tequila (Yes, you can argue this one,

but you still end up doing them less because there are a lot of 'what ifs' that go through your head).

A minimum of six hours of severe discomfort. A minimum of 30 minutes of straight out pain. 2-6 weeks of recovery and bathroom m__der scenes.

A lot of money in medical bills, labs. A lot of lost money, or lost time off for leisure, in missed days for appointments and medical leave.

Not to mention missed opportunities for career development and advancement.

Per kid. Doing it 5 times in a short time frame? That's... I hate to say it, but pretty near life wrecking.

Back to personal anecdotes: with my 4 kids, ideal scenarios, and all 4-5 years apart,

I'm still going to need a pelvic floor therapist once this current pandemic eases for various little things that all added up make a wreck.

I don't think BIL actually understands what he's asking. He's asking for you to lose.

..probably about 6 years of your life, as I doubt many decent doctors will allow you to start on the next one less than a year postpartum.

That's not including the two kids for you and your wife.

This group emphasizes how lopsided and unfair the “deal” is compared to sp*rm donation

[Reddit User] − NTA. What a f__king bizarre form of blackmail here. No, OP. Your uterus, your decision.

cosmictugboat93 − Let’s just compare the monetary value of each service,

taking all the emotion out of it since they don’t understand/are too consumed with their wants, anyways.

Men an compensated an average of $70 for donating sp*rm.

Women an compensated an average of $50,000 to $80,000 for surrogacy. NTA Edit: source was simple google search

shangib723 − Info: I can't believe I'm actually asking this, did you try to negotiate the quanity of children they are requesting or is it not even an option?

The in-laws framed pregnancy as a simple transaction but the emotional and physical cost of gestating five babies cannot be “returned” like a borrowed item. Her refusal wasn’t selfish. It was a clear, necessary boundary in the face of overwhelming pressure.

Adoption gives the couple a loving path forward, while the brother-in-law must confront his own misplaced expectations. What do you think? Was her “no” justified?

Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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