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Dad Refuses To Give Ex Extra Custody For Her Proposal Trip After She “Scammed” Him Last Year

by Charles Butler
November 21, 2025
in Social Issues

Custody schedules are the holy grail of co-parenting. When they work, they provide stability. When they fail, they turn into a logistical nightmare that can ruin holidays and relationships.

One father recently found himself in a high-stakes game of “fool me once” with his ex. After being burned on a holiday swap last year, he decided to hold the line this Christmas, even when her new boyfriend called to beg for a special favor.

Now, read the full story:

Dad Refuses To Give Ex Extra Custody For Her Proposal Trip After She "Scammed" Him Last Year
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AITA for refusing to give my son's mom extra custody after her boyfriend asked me?

I coparent an 8yo boy with my ex. We share 50/50 custody with a vert specific custody calendar to ensure

we both get the same amount of days with our son. Last year, my ex asked if I could give her my Christmas week

in exchange for a week in the future because she wanted to go visit her family out of state and could only do it on the days I had my...

I said yes. From that point on, she has refused to give me my week back. She always had some excuse or wanted to do it

when it worked for her. In other words, she scammed me out of custody time.. I said so be it. Earlier this week, she asked again,

if she could have our son the week of Christmas. I have him the week of and she has him the week after. Again, to visit family.

I said of course. But need to give me two weeks in return. One from last year and for this year. AND I get those two weeks

before you get any extra time so you can't f__[mess]__ me over again. One of those weeks can be the week of Thanksgiving when you have him.

She refused and tried gaslighting me by saying she gave me back the week I gave up last year lol. I told her there was no room to negotiate.

Take it or leave it. The next day her boyfriend called me. He said he was going to propose this Thanksgiving

which is why my ex doesn't want to give up Thanksgiving. They both wanted to travel to see his family for Xmas and NYE

and celebrate their engagement. That's why I can't have her Thanksgiving time and why she needs my Christmas week.

I told him my custody arrangement was NONE of his business and I don't have to explain s__[tuff]__ to him.

In fact, I'm not open to any custody changes anymore. You can go tell my son's mom that you FAFO.

Now he's trying to walk back everything he said because he knows he seriously f__[messed]__ up by inserting himself into this matter.

Of course he said he was just trying to help out.

The High Cost of Informal Swaps

This story is a textbook example of why “handshake agreements” in custody cases often end in disaster. The OP (Original Poster) tried to be flexible and generous, a trait usually praised in co-parenting, but he got burned. His reaction isn’t just about being petty; it is about re-establishing a boundary that was trampled.

The boyfriend’s involvement adds a chaotic layer to an already tense situation. In family law, the introduction of a new partner often complicates existing dynamics, especially when they try to “fix” issues they don’t fully understand. By stepping in to negotiate custody, the boyfriend didn’t just overstep; he turned a private parental dispute into a three-ring circus.

The “Holiday Custody War” Phenomenon

If you feel like holiday custody battles are becoming more common, you aren’t wrong. A survey by Stewarts Law revealed that 39% of separated parents worry about having a say in holiday arrangements, and 21% are unable to agree at all.

The core issue here is the risk of informal agreements. When parents swap days without a court order modification, they are operating on an honor system. If one parent defects, like the OP’s ex did, there is often no immediate legal recourse.

Legal experts warn against this exact scenario. According to Ansham White Solicitors, informal agreements “do not carry any legal weight.”

“If one parent fails to comply… there is no simple recourse to enforce the terms of the agreement. This lack of legal enforcement can lead to misunderstandings, disputes, and instability.” — Ansham White Solicitors

The OP’s demand for “time up front” was a smart, protective move. He essentially tried to collateralize the agreement to prevent another default. When that was refused, he realized the only safe move was to stick to the original court order.

Check out how the community responded:

Redditors were nearly unanimous: the boyfriend had absolutely no business calling the OP.

[Reddit User] - NTA Her BF has f'd up big style by sticking his beak in. If she refuses to give you the time back

you are owed you are well within your rights to refuse any further custody changes.

The_Great_Xandinie - NTA... I’m a step parent myself and would never dare to step in between my wife and her ex regarding anything

about my stepson unless both parties asked me. I don’t think the ex was trying to be an asshat but he seriously overstepped.

Trust is a Currency. Many commenters pointed out that the ex-wife spent her "trust capital" last year. You can't default on a debt

and then ask for a new loan. The OP isn't being mean; he's reacting to her credit score, which is currently zero.

ESLsucks - NTA imagine if she just gave you the week last year, but instead she wanted to be an ass and ruin it for herself.

ParsimoniousSalad - NTA. And I loved it when you insisted on getting your weeks back prior to you giving her your designated week.

If she apologizes for her bf getting involved, you could go back to that stance.

Several users advised the OP to stop talking on the phone and start writing things down.  

[Reddit User] - NTA. Also, start and maintain a record of when your son is where, just in case. Keep all texts/emails.

Even if you come to an agreement over the phone, confirm it with texts so you have a record of her responses.

Interesting-Month-56 - NTA I mean you said clearly at the end. Your ex wife’s BF has no skin in the game.

Call your attorney and let him/her know what’s up. You may end up in a custody battle soon.

Particular-Try5584 - NTA. I’d plan to have a wonderful Christmas with my son this year…. She’s asking for two years in a row Christmas …

and thanksgiving too? Nope. Your family deserves to have some of these ritual times with him too.

How to Navigate a Situation Like This

If you are in a co-parenting arrangement, live by the court order. It exists to prevent exactly this kind of emotional bargaining. If you do decide to swap days, do not rely on a handshake. Use a co-parenting app (like OurFamilyWizard or TalkingParents) or email to document the agreement clearly: “I am giving you X dates in exchange for Y dates.”

If a third party (like a new boyfriend or step-parent) tries to intervene, shut it down immediately and politely. A simple “I discuss custody matters only with my child’s mother/father” is a complete sentence.

Finally, remember that flexibility is a privilege, not a right. If your co-parent has burned you in the past, you are under no moral obligation to set yourself on fire to keep them warm.

So, the consensus seems to be that the OP is NTA for holding his ground.

What do you think? Was “FAFO” too harsh for a boyfriend who was just trying to help, or was it the perfect boundary check?

Charles Butler

Charles Butler

Hey there, fellow spotlight seekers! As the PIC of our social issues beat—and a guy who's dived headfirst into journalism and media studies—I'm obsessed with unpacking how we chase thrills, swap stories, and tangle with the big, messy debates of inequality, justice, and resilience, whether on screens or over drinks in a dive bar. Life's an endless, twisty reel, so I love spotlighting its rawest edges in words. Growing up on early internet forums and endless news scrolls, I'm forever blending my inner fact-hoarder with the restless wanderer itching to uncover every hidden corner of the world.

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