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Dads Ban Niece From Fishing Trip, Get Called ‘Dinosaurs’ By Family

by Charles Butler
November 13, 2025
in Social Issues

For over a decade, a family’s biannual fishing trip was a cherished tradition. It was a time for brothers to reconnect and for their kids to bond over a shared love of the outdoors. But what was once a wholesome getaway has now turned into a bitter family feud, all because some teenage boys felt “awkward” around their female cousin.

One of the dads took to Reddit to ask if he was in the wrong for telling his brother to leave his 17-year-old daughter at home. The answer he received was a resounding, deafening “yes,” with his own nephew perfectly summing up the situation by calling him and his brothers “dinosaurs.”

Let’s get into the messy details of this family fallout:

Dads Ban Niece From Fishing Trip, Get Called 'Dinosaurs' By Family
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AITA for telling my brother to stop bringing his daughter to our trips?

I have three brothers and we are all married with kids. We don't see each other much which is why twice a year we all go on a fishing trip...

and bring some of our kids with us. This is a tradition we've had for more than a decade now. The kids we bring are those interested, which ended up...

except for my brother James and his daughter Selene(17F). She was way more interested in fishing than James's other kids were, and he's been bringing her since we started the...

It was all cool and dandy when all of our kids were children, but now that they are all teens and older, with the youngest being 15, it kind of...

During our recent trip, my son(15M) as well as one of my nephews(16M) came to me and my eldest brother and asked us if it was possible to not have...

come on the next trip with us because they would like to have a father-son trip with just us. They said they can't really speak freely or behave how they...

because it feels weird having her there. I understood where they were coming from, since most of them are in that awkward phase and having a girl present

when you just want to rowdy with your cousins can feel very weird. So I discussed it with my eldest brother and we decided to ask James if it was...

to not bring Selene on the next trip, and bring another one of his kids instead so we could have a father-son vacation. James did not take this well at...

and said he will simply not be coming even though we explained our reasoning very well to him and I had my son and nephew tell him how they felt...

My oldest nephew heard what happened and he made an over-sensionalized post on facebook calling us dinosaurs. So the story got out to the rest of the family,

and opinions are split. I just wanted to listen to my son and nephew and give them the experience they wanted and not dismiss their feelings and make them feel...

Oof. You can just feel the sting of rejection from a mile away, can’t you? My heart absolutely breaks for Selene in this story. Imagine being part of a tradition for your whole life, a tradition built around a hobby you genuinely love, only to be told one day that you’re no longer welcome simply because you’re a girl.

And what’s worse? The exclusion is being justified by the very men who are supposed to be her loving uncles. The dad who wrote this says he wanted to make his son “feel heard,” but in doing so, he sent a loud and clear message to his niece that her feelings don’t matter at all. Her presence, the very thing that made their family trip inclusive, is now being treated as a problem to be solved.

This Wasn’t Just Awkward, It Was Exclusion

Let’s be honest, the moment the boys said they couldn’t “speak freely” or “behave how they want” around Selene, huge red flags should have gone up for these dads. Instead of seeing a crucial teaching moment, they saw an inconvenience. They had a golden opportunity to teach their sons how to be respectful young men around women, and instead, they chose to build a “boys only” clubhouse.

This taps into the old, tired, and incredibly harmful “boys will be boys” trope. This mindset excuses poor behavior from boys by suggesting it’s just their nature. Research from the American Psychological Association has shown that this kind of thinking reinforces harmful gender stereotypes and teaches boys that they aren’t responsible for their actions, especially around girls. By caving to the boys’ request, these dads didn’t just exclude their niece, they failed their sons.

This situation also highlights a classic parenting mistake. According to a Pew Research Center survey, parents often have different expectations for raising sons versus daughters, sometimes without even realizing it. The uncles prioritized their sons’ desire for a “rowdy” trip over their niece’s right to be included in a family tradition she was already a part of.

Her father, James, did the absolute right thing by standing with his daughter and refusing to attend a trip where she was not wanted.

The community had almost no sympathy for the OP.

The verdict was a deafening YTA, with Redditors calling out the dads for teaching their sons that excluding women is perfectly fine.

czndra67 - Yta. Why are the boys feelings more important than the girls? Why is it ok to reject her from a family tradition?

You don't seem to see HER perspective... she's getting the boot because she's a girl. ONLY because she's a girl.

As father's and teachers of young men, you should have used this to show kindness, fairness, and respect for women. Instead you backed them up. Shame on you all.

NanaLeonie - YTA for supporting this “speak freely”, “behave how they want” and be “rowdy” business to exclude one cousin.

Good for James in saying he won’t go if his daughter is unwelcome.

Electronic_Fox_6383 - Oldest nephew nailed it. YTA

[Reddit User] - YTA If there's something you or your brother want to say or do that you feel is inappropriate to say or do in front of a girl,

then it's equally inappropriate to say or do it in front of your male children.

Major_Barnacle_2212 - Dinosaur is such a nice name for what you are... You missed a teaching opportunity about respecting both genders, family, equality, etc...

You need to seriously reconsider what lessons you were teaching your son, then make an apology to your brother.

happybanana134 - 'I just wanted to listen to my son and nephew and give them the experience they wanted...'

What about Selene's feelings and her experience? Why doesn't this matter?

 

[Reddit User] − YTA If your son and nephew want farther son trips then take them on farther son trips, you don’t get trample over your brother and niece

to get what you want because you can’t “speak freely” around her (already says enough about what you all wanna act/ talk like) You state his other kids

aren’t that interested in going so why try and rope them into it and make everyone miserable in the process

 

Many users pointed out the simple, obvious solution that the OP completely missed.

BiscuitFPV - You asked your bother to exclude his daughter for no other reason than she was a girl and now you're confused as to why he is upset.

YTA dude. If you want to father-son trip take a DIFFERENT trip and keep your tradition in place.

coastalkid92 - YTA If your nephew and son want a father son trip, then organize a dedicated father/son trip.

These fishing trips have included Selene since she was small and it's not fair to expect her to have to sit them out.

[Reddit User] - This trip is a FAMILY trip. If you guys want a father-sons thing, then do something else or do it at another time.

How to Handle a Moment Like This

It’s clear that the dads in this story dropped the ball in a major way. If you ever find yourself in a similar situation, where your kids want to exclude someone, it’s a moment to lean in, not to give in.

Instead of immediately agreeing, the first step is to get curious. Ask the boys, “What do you mean you can’t ‘speak freely’? What kind of behavior are you talking about that isn’t okay around Selene?” This isn’t an interrogation; it’s a conversation. It helps them examine their own motives and gives you a chance to explain that true respect means being a good person, regardless of who is watching.

The solution here was painfully simple: if the boys and their dads wanted a special “guys only” trip, they should have planned one. They could have organized a separate camping weekend or a different event, leaving the beloved, inclusive family fishing tradition intact. You can create new traditions without destroying old ones.

In The End…

This wasn’t a story about teenage awkwardness. It was a story about a failure in parenting. These uncles chose to validate their sons’ discomfort instead of teaching them a valuable lesson about respect and inclusion. They sent a message that when boys feel “weird,” it’s a girl’s job to disappear. Thank goodness for James, the dad who refused to let that happen.

What do you think? Did these dads make a terrible mistake, or are people being too hard on them for listening to their sons? Let us know in the comments.

Charles Butler

Charles Butler

Hey there, fellow spotlight seekers! As the PIC of our social issues beat—and a guy who's dived headfirst into journalism and media studies—I'm obsessed with unpacking how we chase thrills, swap stories, and tangle with the big, messy debates of inequality, justice, and resilience, whether on screens or over drinks in a dive bar. Life's an endless, twisty reel, so I love spotlighting its rawest edges in words. Growing up on early internet forums and endless news scrolls, I'm forever blending my inner fact-hoarder with the restless wanderer itching to uncover every hidden corner of the world.

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