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New Hire Misses Weeks Of Work, Then Has The Nerve To Use Her Old Boss As A Reference

by Leona Pham
October 23, 2025
in Social Issues

Every manager hopes their new hire will bring something valuable to the team. But for this business owner, the only thing their employee brought was chaos, wrapped in elaborate lies and sprinkled with audacity.

After disappearing from work more often than showing up, this woman somehow thought she’d still earned a glowing reference. What followed was a masterclass in witty revenge, where one perfectly worded sentence said everything the employer wasn’t legally allowed to. Sometimes, malicious compliance doesn’t need volume, just the right tone.

One employer tried to give a new hire a fair shot until serial no-shows turned the situation into a theater

New Hire Misses Weeks Of Work, Then Has The Nerve To Use Her Old Boss As A Reference
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'New hire misses MOST of the first three weeks of work, then uses me as a reference?'

Let's call her Karen, just because it fits. She came in and applied for a job and when I looked at her resume and application,

I realized she knew some of my old neighborhood friends and schoolmates.

She interviewed well, so I gave her a job. Told her to be in Monday at 9:00 a.m.

Monday morning, she is not in, she no calls, no shows. Tuesday, no call no show, I had now written her off. Wednesday, she shows up about noon.

Claims she was in her basement Sunday night and her brother was working out and he accidentally knocked her out during his intense workout.

She claimed her doctor told her she had a concussion and she should stay home for a couple days.

She had no doctor's note, no marks on her head, but thinking her story was so off the wall it could almost be true, I let her come to work...

She worked Thursday and Friday. We paid at the end of every week and I gave her a check Friday, I also did NOT deduct the days she missed.

She came to me and asked about the full paycheck. I told her we were a family business and realized people had lives outside work.

He tried to make sure people knew they were appreciated and tried to take care of our people.

She teared up and thanked me and said we could count on her.. She worked the full next week, did OK. She seemed to fit in. Seemed.

The third week, she showed up Monday, but Tuesday was another no show no call. We did not hear from her for over TWO WEEKS!

When she finally showed up, her story was the stuff of legends. She claimed her husband had forged divorce papers a couple years previous.

Thinking she was divorced, she moved back into her parent's house.

She claimed her "ex-husband" was at her parents' house when she got home the last night she worked.

He told her he made up the divorce and the paperwork was phony so they were still married and he wanted to get back together.

She claims she refused and he kidnapped her. She said it took her until a couple days ago to get away from him.

She wanted to come into work the next day. She did not call the police and he wasn't arrested.

There was nothing in the papers or on the news about any of this. She was not hurt (thank God!)

She asked if I believed her. I did not, but told her that I really needed someone I could count on coming in reliably everyday.

I gave her a paycheck for one week (she had worked 1 day) and told her I wished her good luck.

I had already replaced her, and her replacement was one of the best employees we ever had. Here's the malicious compliance.

The next month, I come in to a phone message that someone from XXX Company called for a reference for Karen.

As my secretary is handing me the message, she's laughing at the look on my face. I asked if she was kidding, she said she was not.

She said she got a call from a man saying he was the owner of a company in the area and he asked about Karen.

Then my secretary asked if she could listen in on the call. (She was a pistol)

She then goes and gets my partner and tells him I am going to call and give Karen a reference. Now he is in my office laughing too!

I call the guy and we make some small talk. I tell him what we do and he tells me what he wants Karen to do for him.

I tactfully avoided answering any of his questions about Karen directly. I think he was beginning to suspect something.

Remember folks, employers can get in a ton of trouble for bad references.

He finally asked my opinion of Karen, and what I said was, "IF you can get Karen to work for you, you will be VERY lucky".

He heard what I said and how I said it. He repeated that back to me exactly as I said it.

All my words were the right ones, it was my tone and intonation that got my point across. He thanked me and hung up.

Karen comes into the office a couple days later, she looks mad but is trying to be pleasant.

She told me she is having trouble finding a job and mentioned she has used me as a reference.

She wanted to know if anyone from XXX Company has called me (she knew they did).

She told me she really want the job at XXX Company. I told her I had been called and that I told the guy he'd lucky to get her to...

My secretary confirmed that's what I told him, she told him she was right next during the whole conversation.

Karen smiled and thanked me and headed to the door. She said she wondered why she was having so much trouble getting a job.

She asked if she could continue to use me for a reference and I told her absolutely!

I also told her I'd tell everyone the same thing, that "any employer would be lucky if they can get you to work for them."

She walked away smiling, happy and clueless.

Both fairness and legal caution drive how references work. U.S. employers often avoid negative comments, not because they’re trying to be coy, but because defamation claims are a real risk.

The Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM) notes that many companies adopt “name, rank, and dates of employment” policies precisely to avoid litigation around subjective evaluations. That’s why artful phrasing, while neutral on paper, can be a vital signal to protect future employers.

From a behavior perspective, repeated no-call/no-shows are a red flag for reliability, a top trait managers recruit for. According to LinkedIn’s Global Talent Trends reports, reliability and accountability consistently rank among the most desired soft skills.

Research also shows that poor attendance correlates with lower team performance and morale; one absentee can force others to absorb workload, which can increase burnout (see Gallup’s insights on absenteeism and engagement).

Psychologist Dr. Robert Sutton, author of The No A**hole Rule, has written extensively about how organizations must guard their talent pipelines from persistently disruptive or unreliable hires, not out of meanness, but for team health and client impact.

And executive coach Whitney Johnson has emphasized that high-performing teams rely on trust as the “operating system”; when trust breaks (say, due to chronic absences), leaders must protect the system, not just manage the symptom.

So what should OP and hiring managers generally do?

  • Stick to verifiable facts: dates of employment, eligibility for rehire, and objective attendance records.
  • Use neutral phrasing with truthful subtext: statements like “eligible for rehire” (or not) tell future employers plenty.
  • Document, document, document: contemporaneous records are a lifesaver if disputes arise.
  • Create a consistent reference policy: align with legal counsel or HR best practices (SHRM provides templates and guidelines).

So, it’s possible to be kind, truthful, and protective of your company, your team, and the next hiring manager, without saying anything defamatory. The statement “You’ll be lucky if you can get her to work for you” was legally careful and ethically clear.

Let’s dive into the reactions from Reddit:

These Redditors admired OP’s witty restraint, calling the reference “smoothly savage” and praising how tone, not words, delivered the message perfectly

mountainsunset123 − Smooth Viciousness. I love it!

konatada − How cheeky and yet. .. Effective. I've had a similar situation where old crappy co-workers have asked to use me as a reference

and luckily for them, I haven't been called. Not sure I'd have the patience to not leave a scathing review, so good on you!

minektur − I once had a boss field a call about an ex-coworker of mine - his side of the conversation sounded like this:

"Yes yes he worked here... Now before you start asking questions,

I want to tell you that we have a policy about not saying anything negative about previous employees. That's all I have to say about

This group shared their own “revenge reference” stories

HarlequinnAsh − Once fired a girl for stealing $1000 out of the register and only returning $300.

She then tried to claim unemployment from us and my boss had a great laugh at that.

GreenEggPage − Did Karen work for you from X to Y dates? She was employed by us, yes. Is Karen eligible for rehire? No.

No she is not. Can you tell us anything else? No. May God have mercy on your souls if you hire her.

QEbitchboss − My fave was someone who wrote "not in this lifetime or any other" under the rehire question. Did not hire, kept that reference for posterity.

These commenters discussed real-world hiring practices, explaining how some workplaces only confirm employment dates and rehire status to avoid legal issues

24Cones − Rule number one of references- ask someone to use them as a reference,

and if they say yes ask if they are able to say good things about you.

really4got − Once called on an aplicants previous employment. ..we can only confirm dates they worked and ask if they are eligible for rehire.

Some companies won't even confirm that. ..the manager i spoke to told me . ..ask if shes eligible for rehire?

Ok then is she? HELL NO...was the reply and that application got filed under do not hire

Both added personal anecdotes of subtle professional karma

justec1 − I was a school board member for many years. The superintendent when I took my seat turned out to be a crook.

My second year on the board, we fired him. Couple years later, I get a call from a woman on the board of a private Christian school.

She found my name on our school website and looked me up in the phone book.

Her: ”can I get some information on Dickie Bones' time at your school? " Me: "Mr. Bones was employed by the district from July 2000 until March 2002".

"Can you tell me about his ability to work with a budget?" "Mr. Bones was employed by the district from July 2000 until March 2002".

"I understand. Can you tell me about his rapport with the board?" "Mr. Bones was employed by the district from July 2000 until March 2002".

Other questions, same response "Can you tell me anything other than that?" "I cannot" Click.

Aside from not reading between the lines, what amazed me was that she didn't get the point that his employment ended in March, not the end of the school year...

JustMeOutThere − Oh. .. Best references are the honest ones. I joined a technical founder (TF) on a start up.

With my business background, we launched but I gave him a reality check: it takes at least 3 years for a business to pick up.

9 months down the road he starts ghosting me. Then I hear from a common acquaintance that he got a job somewhere else.

He needed a paycheck. Fair enough but why ghost me. Oh well, I just invested 9 months of my life here. Life's a b__ch.

Two years down the road TF is out of a job and asking me for recommendations on LinkedIn and Upwork.

I thought I was being nice to not give my honest or any opinion on his profiles.

Maybe I should have done like OP. Karma's a b__ch.

Would you have done the same, or do you think he went too far? Have you ever had a coworker who thought storytelling could save their job? Drop your take below!

Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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