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Reddit User Was Forced To Go Back To Sunday School, So They Use Their Extensive Bible Knowledge To School The Teacher

by Leona Pham
November 14, 2025
in Social Issues

When you leave a belief system that’s so deeply ingrained in your life, the challenges don’t end with the decision to walk away. For one Redditor, the pressure from family to return to the fold was ever-present, especially when their parents pushed for participation in Sunday school as a way to “show respect.” But this Redditor wasn’t about to sit quietly and accept the teachings they had long rejected.

With years of Bible study under their belt, they decided to use their extensive knowledge to turn the tables on their Sunday school teacher. What followed was a masterclass in malicious compliance that left their teacher and the entire class reeling. Keep reading to see how the situation unfolded in spectacular fashion.

A former cult member uses their extensive Bible knowledge to challenge a Sunday school teacher’s views

Reddit User Was Forced To Go Back To Sunday School, So They Use Their Extensive Bible Knowledge To School The Teacher
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'You want me to participate in Sunday School? Enjoy my extensive knowledge of your holy book?'

So my relatives and parents are very firmly a part of this cult, it’s mostly in the states but it does have some worldly presence.

Not gonna say which one it is cause I don’t want my parents to find this post.

I left the cult about two years ago now, after they refused to acknowledge that I had several medical problem

and the religion believes that people can become like Jesus and heal their own bodies. Wack, right?

And I’m not talking about a little scratch or a cold.

I’m talking about cancers, contagious diseases like measles, polio, whooping cough, broken bones, psychological disorders. It’s really crazy.

But whenever I come back they always make me go to Sunday school to ‘show respect for the family’.

B__lshit, it’s cause they want to convert me back and whenever someone from the cult finds out

someone has left they make it their personal mission to bring them back.

So this past Sunday I didn’t have work and my dad told me I had to go to church with the family.

He said I’m still able to go to Sunday school since I’m just in university.

We arrive to the church, I’m super dressed up. Like very fancy looking.

The women when I come in are very pleased (they know I’ve left) and are like

“wow it’s so nice to see you back! Hope you come more often now we’ve missed you.”

I go down to my Sunday school class and it’s a bunch of uni kids and an older woman, strict looking teacher.

Perfect. She sits me down and starts talking about the Bible and what’s wrong and right.

Cue malicious compliance. I took two years of intensive Bible classes, I’ve translated from Hebrew and Greek,

and I’ve actually read the whole Bible cover to cover. Some ‘points’ were made.

Teacher: “And so God said that we most never lie in bed with another of the same s__.”

Me: “And where does it say that ma’am?” Teacher: “Well in this verse here” shows.

Me: “That was actually mistranslated from Hebrew. It actually says man shall not lie with boy.”

Teacher: frustrated “No that’s not true. And besides, there’s this verse here which says homosexual s__ is wrong.” shows other verse

Me: “So…by that logic, wouldn’t that mean that anyone, male on male, female on male, or female on female, who was having oral or a__l s__ would be gay?”

Teacher: horrified The whole class went on like this. I refuted claims about the k__ling of children, the uselessness of prostitutes, about immigration, and so on.

After church, my dad was pulled aside by the teacher and when he came back he sighed and shook his head and said,

“Fine. You don’t have to come anymore.” I replied with “is she not impressed with my thorough knowledge of the Bible?”

Leaving a high‑control religious group and then being drawn back into its rituals can stir deep emotional conflict. In this case, OP decided to leave a cult‑like community that denied medical needs and demanded strict obedience.

When family demanded OP return to Sunday school “to show respect,” OP complied but came armed with extensive biblical knowledge. The result was not a silent attendance, but a subtle challenge to the authority of the class that had once pressured them.

From a psychological perspective, the act of leaving a controlling group and later asserting one’s autonomy is a critical step in reclaiming identity.

Steven A. Hassan, a recognized expert on cults and undue influence, explains that destructive groups use “undue influence” to make people dependent and obedient, suppress their inner voice, and restrict freedom of thought and access to information.

Hassan points out that such groups often require unquestioning obedience and foster fear, guilt, or isolation if one tries to leave. By standing up and actively confronting the Sunday school teacher’s teachings, OP was engaging in the process Hassan describes as “reclaiming control” and resisting undue influence. Psychology Today

What is particularly interesting is how OP’s approach reframes the situation. Rather than simply refusing to attend, OP used the opportunity to engage the group on its own terms, leveraging scholarly religious knowledge to expose inconsistencies and force a reaction.

This shift altered the power dynamics: what was meant to be a coercive “return” became a moment of agency and defiance. Instead of feeling powerless, OP demonstrated that they were no longer subject to silent conformity.

Ultimately, OP’s story reminds us that when someone once part of a controlling group chooses authenticity over obedience, the result can be liberation. While the confrontation may have seemed abrupt, it was less about confrontation than clarity about refusing to be silenced and choosing to stand in one’s truth.

Here’s the comments of Reddit users:

This group discussed how questioning religious interpretations can challenge traditional beliefs and lead to personal revelations

Tremenda-Carucha − It's interesting how some folks cling so tightly to certain interpretations...

I mean, even the most straightforward passages can be twisted into something completely different depending on who's reading them.

Speaking of which, I once took a class on ancient texts and found it eye-opening.

Have you ever noticed how context really changes the meaning of things?

_Rebel_Scum_77 − When I was 6, the Sunday school teacher told my mom I wasn't welcome to return since I asked too many questions.

I'm 53 now and I have never been back to church.

Chewbacca_The_Wookie − I'm not sure where you got the whole "mistranslation" thing, although I could hazard a guess,

but unfortunately the whole “it’s about pedophiles not homosexuality” is bad scholarship at best and intentional misrepresentation at worst.

This argument has been developed recently (I have been unable to find any evidence or claim prior to roughly a 2020 paper)

and is primarily used as an argument by people and in circles specifically to bash Christianity and it’s just not accurate.

Arsenokoitai is a hybrid word for man bedding. Man in the sense of male and bedding in the sense of banging.

The word arsenokotai is also not even used in the verse most frequently quoted (Leviticus 18:22).

Leviticus was originally in Hebrew and it breaks the elements up instead of using a single word.

It reads trans literally as V’et-zakar Lo tis-kab v’et mishkabe ishah towabah hi.

Or “with a male (negative) you lie down in the act of lying down s__ually as lying (with) a wife an a__mination that (is).”

All standard words for male, same word used to distinguish between male and female animals.

There was a Greek translation done years later called the Septuigint which many modern Bible translations are based on.

It also doesn’t use the word arsenokotai.

Because the Hebrew doesn’t smush it together, neither does the Greek, which reads

“Kai meta arsenos ou koimAthAsA koitAn gunaikos bdelugma gar estin” which means

“And with a male (not) you shall sleep s__ually as with a woman, detestable that is.”

As for why Paul uses arsenokotai in the New Testament, it’s likely because this term can be found separated

in the septuigint translation (LXX) as arsenos koitAn in Leviticus 20:13

which reads “And whoever shall lie with a male as with a woman, they have both wrought a__mination; let them die the death, they are guilty.

” Paul appears to be directly referencing this verse by word choice.   Edit: apologizes for any typos, my phone doesn't like Hebrew or Greek.

firedmyass − Raised Southern Baptist. By age nine, I had been kicked out of both Sunday School and Vacation Bible School.

I just wanted some semblance of internal-consistency…and apparently asked too many “secular” questions. I am now functionally-athiest.

This group shared insights into the complexities of biblical translations, particularly around contentious passages

Ancientget − There's a quote from Terry Pratchett - It was because he was so very good at old languages that

he’d been allowed to study in the new libraries that were springing up around the Citadel,

and this had been fresh ground for worry, because the seeker after truth had found truths instead.

The Third Journey of the Prophet Cena, for example, seemed remarkably like a retranslation of the Testament of Sand in the Laotan Book of the Whole.

On one shelf alone he found forty-three remarkably similar accounts of a great flood,

and in every single one of them a man very much like Bishop Horn had saved the elect of mankind by building a magical boat.

Details varied, of course. Sometimes the boat was made of wood, sometimes of banana leaves.

Sometimes the news of the emerging dry land was brought by a swan, sometimes by an iguana.

Of course these stories in the chronicles of other religions were mere folktales and myth,

while the voyage detailed in the Book of Cena was holy truth. But nevertheless. .. (Carpe Jugulum). Religion eh!

I love it when you use logic and fact against holy writ.

There's another quote of his I can't find just yet, it's to do with missionaries and how they should be shot on sight.

histogrammarian − Me: “That was actually mistranslated from Hebrew. It actually says man shall not lie with boy.”

That’s not correct. זָכָר refers to male/man. It can refer to boys (in the same way ‘male’ can in English)

but not exclusively so. Here is a comprehensive list of זָכָר and how it is used in the Hebrew bible.

The examples demonstrate that there are many instances where a “boy” translation wouldn’t make sense:

What you’re thinking of are the German translations of the Greek dating to the Reformation period.

There ‘boy’ was used. But this was the actual mistranslation. The unfortunate reality is that the Bible is anti-homosexual.

The claim that it’s not largely originates with gay Christian apologists who want to pinkwash the Bible. But that circle can’t be squared.

dnjprod − “That was actually mistranslated from Hebrew. It actually says man shall not lie with boy.”

I'm sorry, but no. That's an error in interpretation. I give you Dan Maclellan, Scholar of the Bible who speaks about it.

The link starts with the discussion about the word, but the whole video talks about the topic of the two passages

and how they need to be understood from the scholarly point of view.

It also talks about the 1946 translation and the homosexuality/child molester issue as well. This absolutely isn't about i__est or child molestation.

This group reflected on their personal struggles with religious control

Actual-Employee-1680 − I am a Christian. My mother is a narcissistic, controlling "Christian".

She has always manipulated scripture to fit her desires.

I've always wanted to read the entire Bible, but usually got bored in Genesis.

This time I'm committed to it. I'm now halfway through the 7th book of the Old Testament, Judges.

I am astounded at the crap I was lead to believe my whole life. I'm mid fifties.

Let me tell you that it's been an eye opener, and when Mother tries her crap, I now promptly shut her down with what it really says.

I am struggling with some of this because it goes against everything I've been taught. It's shocking.

shellexyz − There’s no possible way they will ever accept “man shall not lie with boy”. For so many of them, that’s the whole point.

silky_string − I loved reading this! Thank you for sharing and I'm so proud of you! It reads like you really made space for yourself.

I've been trying to do more of that in my own life and feel inspired by you. It sounds so satisfying, and you sound so confident.

If you have the time, could you maybe share some of the details you alluded to in your text?

Like the mistranslation of "man shall not lie with boy," k__ling of children, etc. I'd love to learn more about this.

Bitter_Sea6108 − Let me guess you’re JW . Don’t you know you’re not allowed to refute anything?

I was forced into it until us kids became teenagers and bucked the parentals.

Now we’re all late 50’s and wouldn’t dream of being part of that “ convenient “ cult.

I say convenient because they never have to do anything for their families except the basic necessities of existence.

They strip you of ANY individuality and silence you of basic opinion. Thats defined as a CULT

This group focused on addressing inaccuracies in religious teachings, especially regarding translations

dnabsuh1 − Love this. About 25 years ago, I was living in an apartment complex,

where we would get a non-stop series of 'elders' knocking on our doors Saturday mornings, often between 7 am and 9 am.

My biblical knowledge is nowhere near as extensive as yours, but I found the places where 'The Lord gathered his sons',

or main characters were celebrated for k__ling, despite 'Thou shalt not k__l', etc. Hopefully, I got some of these 'elders' to rethink things.

imtchogirl − You should be very well aware that Christian Science stopped following updates in Science and in Biblical Scholarship when MBE died.

It's a neat trick, simply reject modernity to avoid critical thinking. Good job. But they won't change.

JungleDiamonds1 − Sunday School? Like for kids? Made up b__lshit and maybe you should actually take a Hebrew course, because you’re wrong.

The Hebrew word in question is זָכָ֔ר, and it just refers to the categorical s__.

It’s the same word used in Genesis 1:27, 5:2, and the two-by-two flood narrative to describe the category of “male,” opposite female.

It refers to all men of any age: old men, babies, and men of fighting and procreating age (Genesis 34:24, Numbers 31:17-18).

If it was about kids, we’d probably see יֶלֶד or maybe עוֹלֵל Nice story bro

What do you think? Should OP have taken a more subtle approach, or did they have every right to challenge these misinterpretations? How would you handle a situation like this? Share your thoughts below!

Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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