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He Waited For Women To Start The Conversation In Online Dating, And Here’s What Happened

by Leona Pham
November 13, 2025
in Social Issues

Online dating is already a wild ride, but what happens when you switch up the rules? One Redditor decided to let the women make the first move, thinking it might lead to more creative, engaging conversations. Spoiler alert: it didn’t. Instead of witty openers, he was greeted with a sea of simple “Hi’s” and “How are you’s.”

After six weeks of this, he was less than impressed. It turns out, women don’t always have the magic words to make online dating sparkle, either. Curious about what went wrong and why this happens? Dive in to see how this experiment unfolded and what it means for online dating expectations.

A man lets women start the conversation in online dating, only to be unimpressed by the lack of effort

He Waited For Women To Start The Conversation In Online Dating, And Here’s What Happened
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'I let the women start the conversation in online dating and those were the results?'

So I decided to just let the women start the conversation this time around instead of me initiating the convo.

Usually when I match with a girl I try to go beyond the simple “Hi, hello, how are you Doing etc.”, and try to bring up something relevant from her...

This time around I wanted to sit back and see how girls approach men, since I have read so many complaints about men not being creative enough...

For about 6 weeks till today I didn’t say one word when I matched with someone.

I’d say 35% of convos didn’t even start after the match. I didn’t say anything and they didn’t say anything.

The other 65% the girl I matched with initiated the convo... BUT I wasn’t impressed at all.

90% of those messages where simply “ HI” “Hello” “how are you doing“. The other 10% was a mix of compliments for my dog

or on a rare occasion someone would say something differently

(and that’s because in my bio I have a question for them to guess and they pretty much simply answer the question when they match with me).

Overall I wasn’t impressed and actually expected this outcome.

Hopefully women understand one day that the same way they want us to impress them we want to be impressed as well, especially in online dating.

Online dating often seems like a fresh start, but it can quickly feel repetitive and uninspired when conversations plateau.

In this scenario, OP decided to let the women take the first step, hoping to see how creative or engaging they would be. What he found was a mix of silence and generic greetings such as “Hi” or “How are you doing?” The result is a whole lot of matches, but very little substance.

Psychologically, this reflects a well‑documented phenomenon in digital dating. Research shows that dating app users frequently experience “burnout” when conversations become routine and low‑effort. For example, in Psychology Today, one article explains that 24% of users found “repetitive conversations” draining.

Another article outlines how choice overload and anonymity in app dating can lead to shallow interactions and diminished expectations. This suggests that OP’s experience isn’t just personal; it’s a by‑product of how many dating apps operate.

While OP awaited an elaborate opener, the reality was many matches were simply sticking a toe in the water, not ready to dive deep. The “take the lead” experiment revealed that even when women initiated contact, they often defaulted to the same safe pattern of “Hi” messages.

It’s not about lacking interest; it may be about low risk, minimal effort, and simple social scripts. OP’s unmet expectation, wanting to be impressed, clashed with what many matches were prepared to offer: minimal effort, minimal risk.

Therapist Duygu Balan explains in Psychology Today that when dating becomes “swiping your heart out,” it can lead to feeling disconnected and exhausted.

Her work highlights how digital platforms can drain enthusiasm when conversations stay superficial. In OP’s case, his desire for meaningful beginnings collided with the pattern of safe openings, making the experience feel flat and disappointing.

Ultimately, OP’s story reminds us that online dating success isn’t about who starts the conversation; it’s about how the conversation starts. If we hope to be impressed, we may need to impress first.

Here’s what the community had to contribute:

This group expressed frustration with the games and unspoken expectations in online dating

ToxyFlog − I tried to let the women message first, no messages came.

RoboCat23 − What’s with these games? This whole debate over not just saying “hi” or “hello” is ridiculous to me.

If you have wild expectations that the person who messages you has to be special or different

and “not like the other” girls and guys, that’s probably why you’re always disappointed.

If someone sent me some one-liner as their first sentence, that doesn’t mean they’re not goin to be a total d__che about everything else.

TheFireflies − I’m a woman and half the time when I message first, I don’t get a response or I get unmatched.

EDIT: If you’re here to suggest that maybe I’m just fat and ugly, check to see if anyone else has mentioned it first.

These commenters criticized the lack of genuine communication

jellyrolls1223 − If I like you first & you’re liking of me causes the match, you should message first.

You are online! If you saw it happen & chose to ignore it, to me that signals disinterest.

If the match happens when I like you, I’ll message you. Don’t play games, just talk!

Tae_Kwon_Toes − Peacock culture. I'm sick of it, I'm tired of games. I'm not even 30 and I'm too old for this s__t.

Let's just get along like people, maybe have s__ and maybe fall in love, and most importantly foster a friendship from which any of this can evolve,

even just good friendship I live in Miami so tinder here is peak tinder and I am just tired of the shallowness

Simon_Bongne − Plenty of women will match with me on Bumble where "they have to make the first move,"

and they literally never, ever initiate conversation. Whats the deal?

Are we so committed to our garbage gender roles that we won't start a conversation with

a guy even when we're using an app that has the expressed purpose of having women initiate? S__t's weak, s__t is wizeak!

This group discussed how profiles and effort impact online dating success

aSpanks − Tbf a lot of it depends on your bio (and I mean I 100% absolutely know I’m not familiar w yours,

I’m not trying to be presumptuous or knock you, just my experience)

So many guys have the absolute worst, bottom of the barrel profiles. All pics are group pics.

2 of your f__king truck and then 1 super close up that was taken w what looks like a 2006 razr.

Bios that are either completely blank or w b__lshit like - just ask - I’m an open book

- dk how to do this lolol I’m a pretty bold and creative person but I do need something to work w.

I’d hazard a guess you’re much the same, OP The absolute worst, and this is across both M/W,

is something to the effect of “don’t match if u don’t text”..... and then that person has absolutely zero ability to make conversation lol

monica_9090 − When you’re a woman and put even a nominal effort into your profile, on most dating platforms,

you instantly become inundated with likes, matches and messages.

I have nothing against people preferring something like “hello” in favor of a pickup line when hooking up at a bar or something

—but in the online world, you’re just not going to get noticed unless you put in a bit more effort.

mgrey24 − Online dating and apps have ruined dating. It's given women an overwhelming amount of options,

which allows the con artists and manipulators to thrive. Those are the type of guys to come up with something witty or look up lines on the Internet.

It's way easier to trick people now because you're not face to face.

It's made a lot of guys have self esteem because they see all of these beautiful women reject them, depending on where you live.

Most of the beautiful women I've met had been in person.

If they saw me on an app they probably would've swiped left, not because I'm not good looking, trust me I am,

but because I didn't fit their imaginary type of guy. In person, once I get to talk to them, make them laugh, things change.

A lot of those good guys are out there working and most of the really good girls are not on these apps. I've had these conversations.

They go on the app, get weirded out and quit. I hate that this new age of dating has messed up everyone's self esteem and caused people to live fake...

These commenters acknowledged the imbalance in options

hesitantflyingfish − Women aren’t looking to impress you because they have a plethora of options on online dating.

When you have multiple people messaging you first, why would you message the ones that don’t?

LazerFort − You seem to forget there are way more women with way more options than you.

plethorax5 − I don't want clever conversation/I never want to work that hard/I just want someone that I can talk to/I want you just the way you are -- Billy...

Do you think it’s a mismatch in expectations, or is it just that online dating tends to encourage surface-level interactions? Would you try a different approach or stick with the idea of letting them start the conversation? Let’s hear your thoughts!

Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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