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Guy’s Efforts To Keep Things Civil With A Girl Backfire, He Ends Up Kicking Her Out Of The Group

by Marry Anna
December 10, 2025
in Social Issues

What happens when a casual friendship suddenly becomes a source of tension in your friend group?

For this guy, things got tricky when a girl in his social circle, who he once had feelings for, started causing some drama after he respected her request to just be friends.

After some uncomfortable moments at his family’s bar, he decided to ask Zoe not to show up at group outings anymore, and that’s when things took a turn.

His friends are divided, with some calling him out for his decision, while others think he’s in the right.

Guy’s Efforts To Keep Things Civil With A Girl Backfire, He Ends Up Kicking Her Out Of The Group
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'AITA for “kicking” a girl out of our friend group?'

Alright Reddit. I’ve been getting so much s__t for this that I decided to get a judgement on here.

I feel like I’ve seen a post similar to this before, but the judgment was split, so I guess we’ll see.

So I (26M) have a long-standing friend group. Most of us have been friends since HS.

This girl named Zoe (25F) has been part of the group since college. We’ve hung out plenty of times.

But I would describe our relationship as casual friends.

We follow each other on social media and talk in the larger group, but never 1 on 1 hanging out.

She is friends with mostly the GFs. But I had a low-key crush on her.

Some of the women in the group know but have kept it to themselves for my sake.

But last month I got kinda drunk. And messaged her late at night about possibly hanging out.

She messaged me back in the morning and said she would like to hang out more, but just as friends.

I told her I understood. But knew what that meant, so I never reached back out.

So my parents own a bar. Typically, I will bartend there on the weekends before I go out. My friend group is regulars at the bar.

I will send out a text about what specials we have that night and invite people to come.

So I sent out a big invite and included Zoe on it. She shows up and immediately starts talking to me. I was working, so I kinda just moved along.

I charged her full price the whole night, and she started complaining to the other girls about it, which ticked me off.

Yes, sometimes I will give free stuff out to my friends. But it isn’t all the time.

Yes I used to h__kup Zoe a lot. But that was before she said we were friends.

Then the second thing that happened was I invited a girl to come to the bar to pregame with us before we went out.

Zoe sees me talking to this girl. Decided to introduce herself completely out of the blue. Then those two start talking at the bar.

And it “slips out” that Zoe and I used to be good friends till I asked her out.

The girl I invited wasn’t happy, and I had to spend the next hour explaining that away.

So the next time the group went out. I sent Zoe a text and told her to please not to show up.

She is more than welcome to meet us out later. But I didn’t want to deal with her at my bar.

Her friends showed up at the bar this weekend and asked me to talk. They said it was unfair not to invite Zoe.

Because now she feels isolated. Our whole friend group hangs out here. So banning her is essentially banning her from the group.

I said everyone is free to pick a different bar to hang out at. And then they can invite whoever they want.

But Zoe is weird and is causing issues. So it is her own fault. I’ve still been called an AH. But my guys are on my side. AITA?

Excluding a friend from a social group is rarely a neutral act; it often reflects deeper social and emotional dynamics that shape how people feel about themselves and their connections.

In this case, the OP decided to ask Zoe not to attend gatherings at his bar after a series of awkward moments and personal discomfort.

While the OP perceives his actions as setting boundaries, the reaction from other group members reveals how social exclusion can affect both the excluded individual and the cohesion of the larger group.

Research on ostracism and social exclusion shows that being left out of a group, even in seemingly minor situations, triggers psychological discomfort because humans have a fundamental need to belong.

Studies find that social exclusion threatens key interpersonal needs like belonging, self‑esteem, control, and meaningful existence.

Individuals who experience exclusion often respond with negative emotions such as sadness, anger, or frustration, and this can affect their behavior toward the excluders and others in the group.

In group contexts, the Black Sheep Effect is a well‑documented social psychology phenomenon that explains how groups may judge and distance themselves from members perceived to violate norms or create disruption.

Members seen as “deviant” or problematic can be judged more harshly and even excluded as a way of maintaining group identity and cohesion.

This may help explain why the OP, and some group members, feel that excluding Zoe is justified when her presence and actions are seen as disruptive to the group’s social harmony.

The emotional consequences of exclusion extend beyond immediate feelings of discomfort.

Social psychology research demonstrates that ostracism can affect mental well‑being, leading to unhappiness, helplessness, and even aggressive or withdrawn behavior as people cope with being rejected.

Whether exclusion occurs online or in person, it still triggers stress responses related to the threat of being disconnected from a social network.

At the same time, group dynamics are shaped not only by exclusion but by in‑group favoritism, a bias toward prioritizing those perceived as core members while de‑emphasizing or excluding others.

This psychological bias helps illustrate why the friend group might rally around the OP’s viewpoint or why Zoe’s exclusion triggers tension, groups naturally gravitate toward supporting those they see as aligned with internal norms and values.

What this research suggests for situations like the OP’s is that exclusion rarely resolves underlying issues; instead, it often creates emotional fallout for both the person excluded and the remaining group.

Instead of outright barring Zoe, the OP might benefit from direct communication about behavior expectations, expressing why certain interactions made him uncomfortable and giving Zoe an opportunity to respond.

This creates a space for understanding rather than division. Additionally, involving the wider group in shared discussions about boundaries and social expectations can help prevent resentment or fracture.

Ultimately, while individuals have the right to set boundaries, it’s important to consider how exclusion impacts belonging and group cohesion.

A balance between personal comfort and inclusive group dynamics, supported by open communication and empathy, can lead to healthier and more sustainable friendships for everyone involved.

Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

These commenters argue that the OP is definitely the AH. They note that the OP treated Zoe as a friend while secretly hoping for more and using his position to supply her with free drinks as a form of manipulation.

[Reddit User] − YTA. I told her I understood. But knew what that meant, so I never reached back out.

Yes I used to h__kup Zoe a lot. But that was before she said we were friends. Yeah, dude. Zoe's not the one making it weird.

You made a drunken late-night move on someone who even you seem to acknowledge you didn't have

any reason to believe returned your feelings, and when that (predictably) didn't work out the way you wanted it to,

you immediately revealed your "friendship" was entirely built on the hope that one day you'd get to sleep with her.

And you're surprised she's not happy about this? Or that you're alienating every other woman you know with how you're handling the situation?

ladylyrande − YTA. Zoe thought you were her friend. You weren't hitting on her since the get-go.

You acted like her friend and hooked her up with free drinks under that premise.

Then she finds out she got fuckzoned by you and realizes you were only being nice because you were hoping to get in her pants.

Not just with the free drinks, but literally, you decided to ignore her and treat her as just one more random person in the group.

Yeah, maybe she shouldn't have rained on your parade with the other girl, but at the same time... maybe she just wanted to warn her off about you.

Then, as a petty vengeance, you decided to ban her from the place the group socializes and try to single her

out of the group because she didn't like being f_ckzoned? Damn.

vcatacarte − YTA. Women are not machines you put kindness and friendship into to get romance and s__ out of.

These users agree that the OP’s actions were manipulative and petty. They point out that Zoe’s rejection should have been accepted with maturity, and the OP should have moved on.

stinkykitty71 − YTA and I can't fathom how you don't see that. Break this down in the simplest way.

1. You asked her out, but now say she's weird just because she didn't give you what you wanted.

2. You used to try to get her to like you more with free drinks, but now she won't give you what you wanted,

so you make a point of charging full price (do you charge your other friends full price? ).

3. You know your friends won't go elsewhere because you're giving them discounted liquor and it's their established place,

but you're using your connection to the place to cut her off from friends because again SHE DIDN'T GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

You are seriously a creep.

ijnarn − So you supply this girl with drinks, for what seems like months if not years, in the hopes that she will hook up with you,

and when she doesn’t want to, you punish her? Lmao yeah dude, YTA.

You just told Zoe that you were never actually her friend, you just hoped to get into her pants but was too much of

a chicken s__t to confess you have a crush while sober.

You don’t owe her drinks any more than she owes you a relationship, but what you did is shady as hell.

Zoe telling that other girl about you was just her warning the girl about what kind of dude you are.

The kind that are friends with a girl as long as there is a chance you can get in her pants.

ShoddyExplanation − Zoe inserts herself into a conversation and conveniently lets drop that op asked her out, how is she not an AH for that?

What purpose does that info even serve besides to be petty?

These Redditors take a more neutral or mixed stance, suggesting that both parties are somewhat at fault.

Therefrigerator − I'm gonna say NTA. Reading through these comments, I think the thing you did the most "wrong" was not letting Zoe know earlier.

To her, the free drinks seemed like you were close friends because she wasn't aware you were interested.

I don't know what these other posters are on about "taking away s__t" when you don't even h__kup your friends as much as you did her.

To me, it sounds like you were fine going back to "normal," as in friendly acquaintances (hang out together in a group but not that close),

and to you, that meant closing the spigot on free drinks, but to her, she felt punished for saying no.

Then she clearly went a step beyond in meddling in a potential different date because she felt slighted which seems like

a clear escalation from just not getting free s__t.

At best, this is an E S H type deal because there's no way anyone can justify that.

Queasy_Bed_6050 − ESH. There is no reason for Zoe to complain about not getting the free/discounted drinks because that should be expected in the situation.

She knows why she was paying full price because it’s a pretty standard part of the obvious change in your relationship.

It’s not like you were good friends; you were casual friends in the same group.

Once you showed interest, and she turned you down, of course, things will get more distant between you (at least for a while), and that’s normal.

Idk about her going up to that girl—is she normally pretty friendly with everyone like that?

It definitely seems petty and intentional for her to tell a stranger that kind of personal info about the two of you.

But kicking her out of the group is not cool. You could have talked to her about not cockblocking you at work, and then if she did, tell her not...

Key-Bit1208 − So just because she decided NOT to accept your ‘let’s be more than friends’ advances, you decided that:

1) She was no longer worthy of the ‘friends discount’ at your bar (the one she previously received).

2) Zoe gets exiled from friend-time at the bar bc she mentioned to a girl that you were interested in,

that Zoe considered you a great friend until you made a move, she rejected you, and then you started giving her the cold shoulder.

A lot of friend groups have twisted pasts amongst the friends, crushes that didn’t pan out, relationships that failed, etc.

That’s pretty easy to explain, you just had trouble explaining your petulant reaction to Zoe’s r__ection. YTA, and you were never a true friend to Zoe.

This Redditor highlights the complexity of the situation, pointing out that the OP was treating Zoe like a friend until he realized she didn’t return his feelings.

MarginalGreatness − I see an awful lot of ytas here, but no one seems to mention that she saw he was flirting

with someone and went out of her way to seek her out, introduce herself, and then try to sabotage his flirting.

Hmmm, looks like the "imaginary" friend zone at work.

"I don't want you right now, but I may need you later, so stay single and lonely while I look for something better."

These commenters are more sympathetic towards the OP.

Cynthia_Castillo677 − I was a little bit split on this one because I wasn’t sure if it’s entirely fair that you’re treating Zoe differently because she rejected you.

She doesn’t owe you a relationship. At the same time, however…

1) You don’t owe her free drinks. I can see where you were coming from, offering her stuff while you had an interest in her.

You were trying to get her attention. Or, from a broader standpoint and the way I’ve always seen it, if you saw her as a

potential partner, wouldn’t you want her to save as much money as she could? That makes sense.

Once you were shot down, you backed off and began treating her in a manner similar to your other friends, with merely the occasional free drink.

2) She sounds very entitled for expecting free drinks. I used to be a shift manager at a popular fast food place and got

free stuff there every day, plus I was good friends with the staff.

Now that I work elsewhere, what right do I have to go in there and demand free stuff because I used to be a part of the team?

Or even better, one should be appreciative when friends offer free stuff, but they shouldn’t expect it.

Also, someone who is really a friend wouldn’t mind supporting you/your business by paying.

3) She shouldn’t be starting drama. Her bringing up the r__ection thing to a girl you invited out was trying to cause drama.

Heck, even her introducing herself out of the blue sounds like it was to cause drama. She rejected you, and you are taking it relatively in stride.

You still invited her to go out that night after she rejected you.

And she’s making a big deal out of the whole thing. Why? Because you aren’t giving her attention/free drinks?

If the genders were reversed here, I feel like there would be very little debate. She has no right to act the way she is behaving. NTA.

APotatoPancake − NTA. I'm going to be downvoted for this, but "used to be good friends till I asked her out"

as in she no longer sees you as a good friend, so both of you are on the same page that you are sort of 'friendly acquaintances'.

But she's alienated some girl from you with this comment.

That makes her the a__hole.

Elegant-Stretch-7675 − NTA, you started to move on and treat her like normal, and she seeks out the girl you’re with to block you from moving on.

She’s one of those “let’s stay friends and if I can’t find someone I’ll take you” as a girl, yes, discounts are good, but never pressure someone to do it.

She’s not being punished; she was being treated like normal, which is fair. That wasn’t sexist.

The OP’s actions, while understandable given the context of his past with Zoe and the uncomfortable situation she created, still raise questions about fairness and communication within the friend group.

Was it right for him to “kick” Zoe out of the group and bar her from the bar, or did he overstep by letting personal issues affect the group dynamic?

How would you handle a situation where your past with someone complicates group dynamics? Share your thoughts below!

Marry Anna

Marry Anna

Hello, lovely readers! I’m Marry Anna, a writer at Dailyhighlight.com. As a woman over 30, I bring my curiosity and a background in Creative Writing to every piece I create. My mission is to spark joy and thought through stories, whether I’m covering quirky food trends, diving into self-care routines, or unpacking the beauty of human connections. From articles on sustainable living to heartfelt takes on modern relationships, I love adding a warm, relatable voice to my work. Outside of writing, I’m probably hunting for vintage treasures, enjoying a glass of red wine, or hiking with my dog under the open sky.

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