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Redditor Refuses To Become ‘Retirement Insurance’, Mom Deems Them ‘Ungrateful’ And ‘Spoiled’

by Jeffrey Stone
December 3, 2025
in Social Issues

A family dinner detonated when Mom demanded her kids fund her lifestyle – wealth be damned – branding them walking ATMs. Redditor fired back that children aren’t born retirement plans, especially when guilt’s the only withdrawal slip. Mom countered with “ungrateful” and “spoiled,” claiming wasted womb rent.

Reddit’s raging like an overcooked roast, torching the entitlement harder than the gravy. Users crown the kid duty-free, others nod at cultural cash calls. Love’s leveraged, igniting brutal battles over blood, bucks, and who owes whom forever.

A Redditor clashes with Mom over her expectation that kids should financially support parents.

Redditor Refuses To Become 'Retirement Insurance', Mom Deems Them 'Ungrateful' And 'Spoiled'
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'AITA for telling my mom "parents shouldn’t raise children as their future retirement plan"?'

I had a conversation with my mom. My mom told me that children should take up all the responsibility of their parents

when they start earning (including all expenses). Even if the parents are already well off.

And if they Don't do that.. They are ungrateful. Because parents spend money raising them.

I told her I don't think parents should have children so can be their "retirement plans"

If a child wants to do something nice for Parents that's great but they shouldn’t force them or guilt trap them if parents do not have any financial problems.

She just call me ungrateful, spoiled and that she wasted all the money raising me.

I'm just saying all this because I'm selfish and don't wanna pay (for food, clothes, medicine, etc.) her back. AITH?

A family gathering where the vibe shifts from warm hugs to cold, hard cash talk. The Redditor’s saga is a classic clash of expectations, where Mom sees parenting as a loan with interest, and the Redditor sees it as, well, just parenting.

The core issue? Mom expects her kid to cover all expenses: food, clothes, maybe even her Netflix subscription, because she raised them. The Redditor, however, argues that kids shouldn’t be guilt-tripped into footing the bill, especially when parents are financially secure.

On one side, Mom’s perspective might stem from cultural norms. In some traditions, children supporting parents is a badge of honor, a way to repay years of sacrifice.

As Reddit user teresajs pointed out, this “filial piety” can carry deep roots, but it’s worth asking: Did Mom fully support her own parents this way?

The Redditor’s pushback highlights a modern, individualistic view: parenting is a choice, not a contract. They argue that forcing kids to “pay back” every diaper change feels like emotional blackmail, not family love.

This debate taps into a broader social shift. A 2023 Pew Research study found that 59% of U.S. adults believe parents today expect too much financial support from their kids, compared to past generations. The cost of living doesn’t help, entry-level salaries barely cover rent, let alone a parent’s phone bill.

Dr. Dong X. (Xinqi), a geriatrician and director of the Chinese Health, Aging, and Policy Program at Rush University Medical Center, explains in a 2016 Psychology Today article, “As an important part of Chinese culture, filial piety determines the obligation for adult children to take care of their parents.”

His words ring true here: while cultural traditions like filial piety can foster deep family bonds, rigid expectations of financial obligation, especially when framed as repayment, can turn nurturing into a burdensome duty, risking resentment and emotional distance in the Redditor’s case.

This insight underscores the tension in the story, where Mom’s view aligns with traditional values that emphasize lifelong reciprocity, yet overlooks how modern economic pressures and individualistic mindsets can make such demands feel overwhelming.

Dr. Dong’s research highlights that one in two Chinese-American adults experiences depression or anxiety from these caregiving burdens, often due to mismatched expectations between generations.

In the Redditor’s situation, Mom’s insistence on full financial support might stem from a genuine cultural lens, but it could erode the voluntary generosity the Redditor is open to offering.

Balancing respect for heritage with open dialogue might prevent the relationship from becoming a ledger of debts, allowing love to guide support rather than obligation alone.

Still, there’s nuance. Some cultures normalize multigenerational support, and Mom might feel betrayed by her kid’s stance. But as commenter Designer-Welcome7362 noted, this should come from generosity, not obligation.

A middle ground could be open communication, maybe the Redditor offers help when needed, like pitching in for medical costs, while setting boundaries to protect their own financial future.

Families navigating this could benefit from honest talks or even counseling, as suggested by Reddit user -Quaint-. What’s clear is that love, not ledgers, should define these bonds.

Here’s the feedback from the Reddit community:

Some assert that parents chose to have children and owe them nothing in return.

shtoopee − NTA , she makes it sound as if people are automatically born in eternal servitude to their parents.

THEY decided to have a kid. THEY decided to spend money on you. Why should you pay for something outside of your control?

[Reddit User] − NTA. Your parents chose to have kids, knowing how expensive they are

LordofToomay − NTA. Parents chose to have children and raising them is their responsibility.

However, if when the children are adults they are generous then it would be nice to help then in retirement, but only if needed and without putting themselves in debt.

E. g. it would be unfair if a parent expected an adult child to fund a cruise when the child is paying a mortgage, saving up

AWhistlingWoman − NTA. Parents do not own their children and they do not have a say in their activities once their children are old enough to make their own decisions.

Having children is an act of love, not a retirement plan. Kids owe parents NOTHING, because it was the choice of the parent to bring them into the world.

Some view expecting lifelong financial support as turning children into retirement plans.

I-cant-hug-every-cat − NTA. This is what I hate when people say "If you don't have kids, who will take care of you when you're old?"

Children aren't supposed to be just future caretakers, that's selfish, you're supposed to have children because you want them

and want to be responsible for them, not because you want a future inversion for your benefit.

Geek_is_my_chic − Nta, raising a bank it sounds like

Sea-Giraffe-8040 − That's what I told her That parents should only have children because they love them... not because of some other plans. It's not like a deal

Some argue filial support should be voluntary, not obligatory.

archaeoloshe − NTA though for some cultures this is more important than others, but from my own worldview I was raised to do whatever I want with my life.

I plan to take care of my mom when she gets old not because I am required to but because she has been the perfect mother and deserves it.

Designer-Welcome7362 − NTA. I know in some cultures this is very common,

but it should be from the generosity of the child's heart, not a burden placed on them to take care of 2 households for the rest of their parents' lives.

And many people have children from very young, barring any physical disabilities,

parents have 20+ years of working ahead of them before they hit retirement age by the time their kids are adults.

No way should their child feel obligated to pay everything for adults perfectly capable of helping themselves.

Some recognize this as a cultural clash between collectivism and individualism.

-Quaint- − NAH. That is your parents collectivist culture and of course it is going to be hard for them to adapt to the change to a more individualistic culture.

Being that you grew up in a more individualistic culture due to that generational shift, of course it is going to be hard for you to adapt to their cultures.

Honestly, some cross-cultural focused counseling may help save your relationship.

Doubledown00 − This is clearly a "cultural difference" situation. You're going to get a ton of American "you don't owe them anything" answers.

For those reasons this questions seems unreasonably slanted. Perhaps the question should be made a little more balanced

by explaining the factors behind why your parents may believe this way.

Some question whether demanding parents practiced the same duty toward their own parents.

teresajs − NTA I'm not from a culture with filial piety, so forgive me if this an absurd comment.

But when I see these posts, I always wonder if the parents who expect financial support provided that same level of support to their parents.

For instance, your Mom claims you should completely pay all of her expenses as soon as you get a full-time job.

Did she completely financially support her parents as soon as she was an adult? Is she completely financially supporting them now?

As an outsider, it seems like some recent generations of parents are using "filial support" to expect a level of comfort

that was never given to previous generations and which is most likely not possible for most young people to provide.

Combine higher expectations with the increase in luxury goods available to the masses (they never had to pay their parents' cell bills)

and the declining birth rate, and the cost of filial piety expectations is probably several times more than what it has ever been in the past.

So, I wonder, "How much support is your mother providing to her mother?"

This Redditor’s showdown with Mom is a masterclass in family drama, where love and money collide like a soap opera cliffhanger. Was the Redditor right to call out the “retirement plan” mindset, or did they miss the mark on cultural respect?

How would you handle a parent demanding a blank check for your upbringing? Share your hot takes below!

Jeffrey Stone

Jeffrey Stone

Jeffrey Stone is a valuable freelance writer at DAILY HIGHLIGHT. As a senior entertainment and news writer, Jarvis brings a wealth of expertise in the field, specifically focusing on the entertainment industry.

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