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His Brother’s Betrayal Destroyed Their Family, but Decades Later the Children Reached Out

by Leona Pham
August 2, 2026
in Social Issues

Family estrangement is rarely caused by one simple disagreement.

Sometimes it grows from years of favoritism, betrayal, grief, and wounds that never fully heal, even after decades of silence.

The original poster (OP), a 46-year-old man, cut off most of his family more than 20 years ago after a devastating conflict involving his two brothers.

He stayed close only to his younger sister and built a separate life far away from the relatives he no longer trusted.

Now, the children of the older brother he refuses to see have reached out and said they want a relationship with him.

OP admits that he is curious about meeting them, but fears that opening the door could also bring their parents back into his life.

Read on to find out why this unexpected request has left him searching for a careful way forward.

Man cut ties with his brother after a devastating family betrayal

His Brother’s Betrayal Destroyed Their Family, but Decades Later the Children Reached Out
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'How do I start a relationship with my nieces and nephew when their father was responsible for my brother's passing?'

One of my employees mentioned that this may be a good place to get

some advice for my current dilemma. I (46M) am one of 4 kids. My older

brother P (48M I think) who I no longer have any contact with, my younger

brother J who is no longer with us, and my youngest sister K (44F).

Recently P’s children (2 girls and 1 boy, all in their late teens and early 20s)

reached out to me and expressed a desire to have a relationship. I have

zero contact with their father and swore that I would beat him black and

blue if I ever saw him again.. A little back ground:

My oldest brother P was always the golden child. No matter what he did,

my parents always had an excuse for why it was not his fault. Bad grade?

Teacher had it out for him. Cheating on every single one of his

relationships? “Good thing you did it to her before she did it to you” (That

one was my personal favorite). He also used to torment J and I constantly

when we were smaller than him, until in high school, when I hit a growth

spurt and sprung up to about 6’4 and 230lbs worth of muscle. After that I

became the typical jock type. Played football, partied, bunch of friends, etc.

Well, my younger brother, J, didn’t get as lucky and stayed pretty small and

scrawny throughout high school and college only getting up to about 5’8

and didn’t have a super active social life. Despite the difference in our

schooling experience I was always very protective of J, especially since we

were always having to put up with P’s b__lshit. Which stopped once he

realized I could pound him into the ground and not break a sweat, as he

was also a lot smaller than me at only 5’10. Not much to say about K. She

was a great younger sister and P didn’t dare mess with her or he would

incur the wrath of our mother.

So, in the late 90s, J met his first real girlfriend, A and was over the moon

about her. He spent every spare moment with her, and when he wasn’t

with her, he would do nothing but gush about her. I had never seen him so

happy. Well, one day, he comes to us, all smiles, and announces that A is

pregnant and they are expecting. The mood quickly turned however when

a week later it came out that A had been cheating on J for the duration of

their relationship with our older brother P. This broke my brother, and of

course P, being the golden s__t that he is, didn’t even get a disappointed

glance from our parents. To this day I have never seen someone look so

broken as J had looked the last time I saw him. I believe his heart ache was

only compounded by the fact that my parents basically told him to get over

it and be happy for our brother. Well about a week after this revelation

came to light, J took his own life. I had never been so sad and angry at the

same time in my entire life. Sad that I would never see my brother again,

and the pure rage of knowing that this was my brother and parents’ fault.

During the funeral, P walked in with A and I saw red. Thankfully I had other

family there to stop me from doing anything stupid, but I told P that if I

ever saw him again, I would k__l him. Shortly after that, I cut contact with

90% of my family, with the exception of K and a cousin I had always been

close with, because everyone except them wanted to make excuses for my

parents and P.

Fast forward to present, I never had any kids and truth be told, I never

wanted any. I much prefer the role of the fun uncle. K met a great guy and

had 2 daughters, who I absolutely adore. P had two more kids with A

before cheating on her (shocker…) and splitting and I’ve never met any of

them. My parents have tried to make contact a handful of times but I

always told them to kick rocks. So last week, I’m chatting with K’s

daughters (19 and 17) and they mention that their cousins have wanted to

meet me for a long time and were hoping I would be willing to meet them

as well. I don’t believe they know everything that transpired between their

dad and I, but I would be lying if I said I never had any desire to meet them.

So everyone, I’m hoping to crowd source any ideas/suggestions on how I

begin/maintain a relationship with P’s kids while also keeping him and A

out of my life. Any suggestions are welcome.. ​

TL;DR: 20+ years ago my older brother caused my younger brother's

suicide. Now his kids want to meet me and have a relationship but i don't

know how to have a relationship without my brother getting involved.. ​

EDIT: One commenter just brought up a good point that kind of changes

my question. The reason i wanted to meet with them soon is because they

are all back in town at once from college due to covid, but someone gave

me the idea that maybe meeting them one at a time once they return to

their college campuses/old living arrangements is the better option.

Thoughts?. ​

EDIT 2: I've had multiple people ask me why K still talks with the people i

cut contact with so i'll just copy/paste one of my replies here.

Even though my sister was just as crushed about J's death as i was and was

angry for a long time. She and her then boyfriend (future husband) hit a

financial rough patch after graduating college and were forced to move in

with our parents. Due to unrelated drama at the time, they couldn't stay

with me. So my sister stayed with them for several years and over that time

their relationship improved and even though i wasn't thrilled at the time, I

understood. She still doesn't really have a relationship with P but is cordial

if they meet. I don't blame her, because our parents did a lot for her and

daughters love their cousins, so i didn't want put her in that kind of

position of choosing.

Grief can preserve a family conflict long after everyone else believes time should have softened it.

For OP, meeting his brother’s children is not a simple introduction.

They are connected to the betrayal that preceded his younger brother’s death, the family members who dismissed that pain, and more than two decades of anger he has used to protect himself.

His hesitation is therefore understandable.

The nieces and nephew may be innocent, but their presence could reopen memories OP has never been able to separate from their parents.

Suicide loss can involve especially complicated grief, including anger, guilt, shame and persistent questions about what happened.

The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention emphasizes that survivors grieve differently and on their own timelines, meaning the passage of years does not automatically resolve the emotional impact.

However, the children did not choose their parents’ actions.

Refusing contact would not necessarily be cruel, because OP is entitled to protect his emotional stability.

But meeting them would also not mean forgiving their father, welcoming him back or rewriting what happened.

A relationship with adult nieces and nephews can exist independently if everyone respects clear limits.

The most sensible beginning would be small, private and controlled.

Meeting each of them individually may be easier than facing all three together, particularly if they have different expectations or different versions of the family history.

A brief conversation in a public place would allow OP to assess whether they genuinely want to know him or are acting as intermediaries for their parents.

He can state beforehand that their father and mother will not attend, receive his contact information or be used to pass messages.

OP should also avoid making the first meeting a complete account of J’s death.

The young adults may eventually ask why he disappeared from the family, and he should not have to lie.

But there is a difference between answering honestly and placing decades of unresolved rage onto people who were not responsible.

He can say that a devastating betrayal occurred, that the family’s response caused a permanent rupture and that he is not prepared to discuss every detail immediately.

The APA notes that family estrangement is rarely straightforward and often involves longstanding injuries and boundary violations. Reconnection therefore does not require removing every boundary; carefully defined limits may be what makes limited contact possible.

One caution matters most: OP should retire the threat of physically harming his brother.

He can maintain permanent no-contact without placing himself or others at risk.

If an unexpected encounter feels likely, planning an exit strategy would be wiser than relying on rage.

These young people represent a possible new relationship, not a demand for reconciliation with the past.

OP can open the door gradually while keeping it firmly closed to their parents.

The goal is not to decide immediately whether they become family.

It is simply to discover who they are when they are allowed to stand apart from what their father did.

Here’s the comments of Reddit users:

These commenters suggested gathering more information before deciding

NatsumiEla − Did you already ask K's daughters if their cousins know the

truth? Since it is very important for you then maybe K's daughters could

help you figure it out as they seem to be in a good relationship with them

throneaway2015 − Since all three siblings sudden;y reached out together, I

think this might be initiated by your parents, or there was some significant

event involving your brother. There's also a possibility that they didn't

know about you until recently, or that they only heard about your younger

brother recently and they're typically curious teenagers who want the gory story.

You could start by asking them, or at least one of them, why they want to

get to know you. Remind them that you are not unwilling to communicate,

but that you have absolutely no interest whatsoever in meeting with, or

talking to your parents, or their father. See where it goes from there.

Edit: I think it would be fair to also point out to them that you're not their

mom's biggest fan, either.

These commenters supported a cautious relationship with the children

RebelScientist − I think this situation needs to be handled with care. I don’t

think there’s any harm in meeting them, but you do need to be clear with

them that you have no intention of seeing or interacting with their father.

From your earlier comment it sounds like the kids are all adults, but since

they’re still living with their father it might be best to hold off on the

specifics of why you won’t talk to their dad until they’re a bit more independent.

Your brother definitely sounds like the type that would blame you for

“turning his kids against him”, and knowing the truth could make their lives

more difficult while they’re still under his roof.

BrokenPaw − How old are they?

Because one option would simply be to send word back through K's

daughters that you would love to have the opportunity to get to know

them, but for reasons you don't wish to discuss, you don't want to have

contact with their parents, so once they are adults, they should reach out

to you and you would be happy to get together with them.

Edit: Reading back, I see that at least some of them are already adults. So

tell them that you are willing to have a relationship with them, but not with

their parents, for private reasons.

CityBride − I actually think it might be a better idea to not meet with them

until they’re full fledged adults. That’s the only way you can really have a

relationship with them separate from their parents. Or even not meet with them at all if you prefer.

These commenters recommended keeping an initial meeting light and avoiding painful details unless the children directly ask

Godless_Servant − Had there ever been a blood test on the oldest? I'd be

curious as hell. Tough situation man, the desire to tell them how big a piece

of s__t he is would be high but i believe it's more important to not tell

them and let them discover for themselves, they probably have an idea anyways.

If asked try to remain level and keep it brief. Focus on them and you in the

now imo. If they want to meet you, i think thats fine, just keep it light and have a laugh.

short_circuited_42 − This is probably too late and but sharing my personal

experience. My dad slept with my uncle's wife and growing up I didn't have

a whole lot of contact with him due to living with my mom.

However I spent summers on the family property and growing up I didnt

know about what had happened but my uncle's were always cold and angry

with me and my siblings and to be honest it kind of hurt especially since

they were nice a kind and understanding with my cousins.

I knew it was because if my dad as he was banned from the property but it

just kind of sucked it got taken out on me.

My mom never really talked bad about him and it wasnt till I was in my late

teens/20s that I got answers to my questions from the family whether it

was siblings aunts or mom and each time it came with the warning that it

would change the way I saw him and once I knew there wasnt going back.

So tldr they arent thier father and from thier point it probably hurts a little

that theyre held responsible and you dont need to go into details at first

just a statement of you're not speaking to your brother and when theyre

older and really want to know y'all can talk about it then would suffice.

But maybe a small get together with your other nieces and maybe sister

might help if possible. Ultimately there's not a whole lot to lose and you

could gain some family. Just my opinion good luck

These commenters suspected ulterior motives

Runnrgirl − If it was me I wouldn’t touch that with a 10ft pole. There is too

much unknown and too much potential for manipulation and hurt. Next

stop: “Dear Reddit- AITH for beating my brother after he manipulated me

to get money using his kids? ” Even if your brother isn’t involved his ex wife may be.

She’s just as bad as he is for cheating on J and letting him think he was

going to be a dad. I remember my late teens and that was not a timw In life

where I was thinking about a long lost uncle that I had never met.

Grif16 − Not to be pessimistic, but could there be ulterior motive for

wanting to finally meet you? Like maybe your brother wants to get back in

touch and is using his kids to do it? Or are you wealthy and they want you to share the love?

ApartLocksmith1 − So these kids want to lay the foundations of a

relationship with their single (possibly financially secure) uncle just before

they "might need a little help" during their college years? Nope. That whole

scenario sounds like social engineering at its finest. To directly answer your

title question? You don't start that relationship!

At a guess your older brother's kids hear how you treat your sister's kids

and want in on the action. I'm sorry for your loss of "J". Nothing your older

brother or his wife can do could ever make up for the loss. I don't think you

should give even a tiny part of yourself to P & A's kids.

I know they're innocent in the situation, but the tiniest chink in your

armour could be exploited for financial gain (which could ultimately

benefit P) if you let those kids into your life.

A painful family history doesn’t always mean every connection has to be lost forever.

The OP spent decades protecting himself from the people who hurt him, but now faces a difficult choice when his brother’s children reach out wanting a relationship.

They are innocent in the conflict, yet their connection could reopen old wounds.

Do you think the OP can build a bond with his nieces and nephew while keeping firm boundaries with their father?

Would meeting them separately be the safest first step? Share your thoughts below!

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Leona Pham

Leona Pham

Hi, I'm Leona. I'm a writer for Daily Highlight and have had my work published in a variety of other media outlets. I'm also a New York-based author, and am always interested in new opportunities to share my work with the world. When I'm not writing, I enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Thanks for reading!

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